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TPTK on paired flop facing action

OMahonyOOMahonyO Member Posts: 1,883
edited July 2010 in The Poker Clinic
No reads. Do I call this river bet?
scotty77 Small blind  £0.25 £0.25 £119.96
madred71 Big blind  £0.50 £0.75 £43.76
  Your hole cards
  • A
  • J
     
OMahonyO Raise  £2.00 £2.75 £80.28
scotty77 Call  £1.75 £4.50 £118.21
madred71 Call  £1.50 £6.00 £42.26
Flop
   
  • 5
  • 5
  • J
     
scotty77 Check     
madred71 Check     
OMahonyO Bet  £3.50 £9.50 £76.78
scotty77 Fold     
madred71 Call  £3.50 £13.00 £38.76
Turn
   
  • 3
     
madred71 Check     
OMahonyO Bet  £8.50 £21.50 £68.28
madred71 Raise  £17.00 £38.50 £21.76
OMahonyO Call  £8.50 £47.00 £59.78
River
   
  • 8
     
madred71 All-in  £21.76 £68.76 £0.00
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  • offshootoffshoot Member Posts: 1,049
    edited July 2010
    no
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: TPTK on paired flop facing action:
    no
    Posted by offshoot
    YES!

    Shove turn!
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited July 2010
    fold river. don't shove turn that would be so lol
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  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: TPTK on paired flop facing action:
    In Response to Re: TPTK on paired flop facing action : YES! Shove turn!
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    Dohhhhh whats your reasoning to shove the turn?
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  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited July 2010
    i think he has 56  A5s alot here but you can beat a bluff lol
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  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited July 2010
    or do you think he was trying to get to SD with 33 lol
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited July 2010

    looool my last few comments on mahonys threads have been to provoke replies....

    the one genuine one I made, honeest, was "Shove turn" !!

    haha
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  • harvey23harvey23 Member Posts: 433
    edited July 2010
    if you calling the turn, you should call the river.

    as played fold to min raise on turn

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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited July 2010

    Are u putting him on a 5??? pocket 3s? QQ+???

    GET IT INNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited July 2010

    Personally as played i agree with DoHHHHHH.

    I rekon maybe 88 (ok he hits FH on river)

    But other than that any pair 7 7-10 10

    Althought JQ keeps comming into my head for some reason.

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  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited July 2010
    surely the reason why you called turn was to let him bluff river/over value QJ/KJ.


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  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited July 2010

    he doesnt have a full stack  he c/c then c/mr on super dry board. he has QQ+ or 5x about 98.27% of the time, fold turn

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  • lynx3ffectlynx3ffect Member Posts: 452
    edited July 2010
    why fold that river? u call turn to let him bluff river no?

    if u arent prepared to call that river u shud fold turn
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  • BlackFish3BlackFish3 Member Posts: 2,418
    edited July 2010
    Fold turn imo. If he's floating the flop then he would probs just give up when you bet again on the turn. If he has a jack and wants to raise for some reason he would of done it on the flop so I don't think he has a jack. Villain calls oop so unlikely to have QQ+, so for me I put him on a 5, 56s, A5s, just a 5. Even 55. Or 33 and turned a boat. Basically I think you are always basically drawing dead when he raises turn so I would just muck it there.
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited July 2010


    Raising the turn shows he aint folding, so just get it in there and then!

    Forget about the "value from bluffs" thing,

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