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NL8 - Overpair on Wet Paired Boared

YoungUnYoungUn Member Posts: 422
edited July 2010 in The Poker Clinic
New to level, no notes on villain who has only sat down the last round or two. Is the flop a shove on this level because we get called with worse a lot? As played, is the turn a call?
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
Mr_Grim Small blind  £0.04 £0.04 £3.19
-Typhoon- Big blind  £0.08 £0.12 £9.84
  Your hole cards
  • Q
  • Q
     
VillainCall  £0.08 £0.20 £8.19
YoungUn Raise  £0.40 £0.60 £9.61
Pexman89 Fold     
Mr_Grim Fold     
-Typhoon- Fold     
VillainCall  £0.32 £0.92 £7.87
Flop
   
  • 3
  • 5
  • 4
     
VillainCheck     
YoungUn Bet  £0.60 £1.52 £9.01
VillainRaise  £1.20 £2.72 £6.67
YoungUn Call  £0.60 £3.32 £8.41
Turn
   
  • 3
     
VillainAll-in  £6.67 £9.99 £0.00
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  • Mr_MiyagiMr_Miyagi Member Posts: 2,031
    edited July 2010


    Yeah I think you should shove on the flop, when he raises.

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  • harvey23harvey23 Member Posts: 433
    edited July 2010
    It is a werid hand for sure, the board is very drawy so there range can be so wide here, esp since they limped UTG which is bad.

    I would 3bet there flop 2bet and get it in on the flop tbh. They have a ton of draws on that board along with overpairs 66-TT which you beat. The times they have two pair, you still have redraws.


    ship it.
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  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited July 2010
    i cant see him minraise with 77-1010, 2 pair? do they limp utg with 4 5? you get shown a better hand  more often than not in these spots, maybe its a shove at nl8 i dunno,
    when passive players go crazy its time to fold
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  • TopTopGunTopTopGun Member Posts: 96
    edited July 2010
    I dont know much about NL8 but this just seens to me like a set turned full house. Dont know if this is to passive but i would maybe fold this unless i have seen viilain do this with overpairs or weak holding before like flush draw.
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  • YoungUnYoungUn Member Posts: 422
    edited July 2010
    I'll re-emphasise that I have not seen Villain before this session and haven't seen enough of his play to make any assumptions whatsoever, so i'm readless in this situation.
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  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited July 2010
    i can only see him making that turn betsize for value with a straight so id call
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  • zingzing Member Posts: 333
    edited July 2010
    don't fold anywhere
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  • lynx3ffectlynx3ffect Member Posts: 452
    edited July 2010
    think i'd prefer a 3bet, get it in on the flop.

    as played turn is a great card for you, def, calling shove as he easily has worse pp here and all sd/fd combos
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  • dav1964dav1964 Member Posts: 2,526
    edited July 2010
    Hi young gun,this is my level and i know alot of the players here but without the info of knowing who the villain is it is hard to say what to do.That said if i didnt know the villain im calling his all-in all day long dav
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