I dont need to represent owt his hand aint strong enough to call, it was a mis click. My hand doesnt matter if he's folding. If he has 10 high does he call coz I cant "represent" anything? Just fold sky poker people!! FOLDDDDDDDDDD - No1 on this thread makes that call in a million yrs. Posted by DOHHHHHHH[/QUOTE
phaps he got that feeling in his guts (you know the one) and just called...
I dont need to represent owt his hand aint strong enough to call, it was a mis click. My hand doesnt matter if he's folding. If he has 10 high does he call coz I cant "represent" anything? Just fold sky poker people!! FOLDDDDDDDDDD - No1 on this thread makes that call in a million yrs. Posted by DOHHHHHHH
Ok dohh i agree with you that he maybe should have folded but what i am more intrested in is what made you make the raise on the river what range where you putting him on to think that he might fold, i know you didnt put him on 22 so what kind of hands did you put him on that he would fold.
yeh yeh, challenge for anyone to post a hand then, where theyve made a hero call on the river with 22 or worse facing a 23xbb raise. Get trawling thru those HH's! 50p to the first to post, ill let u beat me in a HU sng Posted by DOHHHHHHH
well i bet you get quite a few hands and il also bet double or nothing that the majority are against you lol
I wud be lying if I wrote out a range of hands that I put him on, as most people do when they post in the clinic, especially multi tablers.
Looking back I cud assign a range (like most people do in hindsight -and claim that was what they were really thinking at the time - but that wud be pointless.
I just knew he was weak, and thought a bet wud get him to fold - so I guess his range wud be "loads of rubbish hands that don't want to face a big bet on the river" - Hence the tiny little blocker bet.
If people keep making these calls I will continue to win lots of money.
Btw, if the B-C-B line is nearly always a bluff, why dont people take this line with good hands? - do they????
what do u expect dolhhh u post a lot of hands on here always giveing to much infomation away not been sarci been honest Posted by scrumdown
I also post hands where I have the nuts, so theres no difference.
As long as a player understands I bluff as well as value bet, he gains no advantage from seeing my hands.
Would you call? - U know I bluff loads, u know im in alot of pots, but you have pocket 2's!!!!! Its not even a hand!! - Im bluffing with loads n loads of hands that beat u!!
Thats all i was asking was for you to justify your play and you did. If you thought he was weak and could get him off his hand then thats fine, the thing is you looked weak aswell, if you bet the turn instead of check, it probably would have worked but maybe not as he did call with an underpair lol. Take note and next time you play him play your strong hand the same way and make the money back simple
Btw, if the B-C-B line is nearly always a bluff, why dont people take this line with good hands? - do they???? Am I missing 'summat' ?? Posted by DOHHHHHHH
I didn't say that the B-C-B line is nearly always a bluff, I said that that line rarely works as a bluff.
And the reason most people don't take that line with their good hands (this is my assumption, i'm not the greatest player in the world as many SkyPoker-ers will concur) is because you lose so much value, particularly versus drawing hands that will pay to see the river but will not call a river value bet when their draws miss. Hence the B-C-B line rarely works as a bluff, because your opponent will assume that any hand that bets the river for value would have instead/also bet the turn for value.
I think it was high class stuff!!! - both played the hand as though we cud see eachothers cards (I think he missed the 3 bet on the river for thin value)
Btw, sum1 asked why I start threads and then ignore advice, - I read all replies - and appreciate them. U aren't wasting ur time
In Response to Re:? : I also post hands where I have the nuts, so theres no difference. As long as a player understands I bluff as well as value bet, he gains no advantage from seeing my hands. Would you call? - U know I bluff loads, u know im in alot of pots, but you have pocket 2's!!!!! Its not even a hand!! - Im bluffing with loads n loads of hands that beat u!! Posted by DOHHHHHHH
thats exactly the point, you ARENT bluffing with loads of hands that beat him, if you have any piece of that board you are never bluff raising as you know you are most likely ahead so will just flat, you will only be value raising a 3 here....so basically this raise is a 3 or nothing, you arent turning a pair into a bluff because u dont need to
nah u give me too much credit, after he led the river like that, I wud probably only flat with 9t+ - the rest I wud bluff, I know he has pkt 8s or worse, so I wud try and make him fold with loads of hands that beat pocket 2s.
Note to fish - tiny bet n the river to induce v dohh
nah u give me too much credit, after he led the river like that, I wud probably only flat with 9t+ - the rest I wud bluff, I know he has pkt 8s or worse, so I wud try and make him fold with loads of hands that beat pocket 2s. Note to fish - tiny bet n the river to induce v dohh Posted by DOHHHHHHH
noted ;o)
lol although i sort of agree dohhhhhhh still main think is dont like the Bet, check, Bet unless you at least have part of the board As to whether i would make against that call personally depends on my gut and on the day, looking back if i saw the otherway round and he asked what i would do i would probably call and make a note if im wrong
nah u give me too much credit, after he led the river like that, I wud probably only flat with 9t+ - the rest I wud bluff, I know he has pkt 8s or worse, so I wud try and make him fold with loads of hands that beat pocket 2s. Note to fish - tiny bet n the river to induce v dohh Posted by DOHHHHHHH
you only flat with 9T+, so when you raise with a 7 you do that because you want to get him off a 9?
EDIT: just checked you actually raised the button after he limped so putting a 3 in your range is seriously hard!
yeh yeh, challenge for anyone to post a hand then, where theyve made a hero call on the river with 22 or worse facing a 23xbb raise. Get trawling thru those HH's! 50p to the first to post, ill let u beat me in a HU sng Posted by DOHHHHHHH
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yeh yeh, challenge for anyone to post a hand then, where theyve made a hero call on the river with 22 or worse facing a 23xbb raise.
Get trawling thru those HH's!
50p to the first to post, ill let u beat me in a HU sng
Ok dohh i agree with you that he maybe should have folded but what i am more intrested in is what made you make the raise on the river what range where you putting him on to think that he might fold, i know you didnt put him on 22 so what kind of hands did you put him on that he would fold.
Yer on!
TOPTOPGUN.
I wud be lying if I wrote out a range of hands that I put him on, as most people do when they post in the clinic, especially multi tablers.
Looking back I cud assign a range (like most people do in hindsight -and claim that was what they were really thinking at the time - but that wud be pointless.
I just knew he was weak, and thought a bet wud get him to fold - so I guess his range wud be "loads of rubbish hands that don't want to face a big bet on the river" - Hence the tiny little blocker bet.
If people keep making these calls I will continue to win lots of money.
Btw, if the B-C-B line is nearly always a bluff, why dont people take this line with good hands? - do they????
Am I missing 'summat' ??
As long as a player understands I bluff as well as value bet, he gains no advantage from seeing my hands.
Would you call? - U know I bluff loads, u know im in alot of pots, but you have pocket 2's!!!!! Its not even a hand!! - Im bluffing with loads n loads of hands that beat u!!
And the reason most people don't take that line with their good hands (this is my assumption, i'm not the greatest player in the world as many SkyPoker-ers will concur) is because you lose so much value, particularly versus drawing hands that will pay to see the river but will not call a river value bet when their draws miss. Hence the B-C-B line rarely works as a bluff, because your opponent will assume that any hand that bets the river for value would have instead/also bet the turn for value.
Both scrumdown? lol
I think it was high class stuff!!! - both played the hand as though we cud see eachothers cards (I think he missed the 3 bet on the river for thin value)
Btw, sum1 asked why I start threads and then ignore advice, - I read all replies - and appreciate them. U aren't wasting ur time
nah u give me too much credit, after he led the river like that, I wud probably only flat with 9t+ - the rest I wud bluff, I know he has pkt 8s or worse, so I wud try and make him fold with loads of hands that beat pocket 2s.
Note to fish - tiny bet n the river to induce v dohh
lol although i sort of agree dohhhhhhh still main think is dont like the Bet, check, Bet unless you at least have part of the board
As to whether i would make against that call personally depends on my gut and on the day, looking back if i saw the otherway round and he asked what i would do i would probably call and make a note if im wrong
U lost !!??
edit - and are d/q'd for not having a fold button on your laptop.