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100nl AA in a 4b pot yucky river decision

scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
edited July 2010 in The Poker Clinic

Hand History #275482180 (21:39 28/07/2010)

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
raffles65 Small blind   £0.50 £0.50 £151.38
YIPEEYAPEE Big blind   £1.00 £1.50 £99.00
  Your hole cards
  • A
  • A
     
scotty77 Raise   £4.00 £5.50 £138.90
wooderson Fold        
LIONS62 Fold        
ajs4385 Raise   £12.00 £17.50 £128.09
raffles65 Fold        
YIPEEYAPEE Fold        
scotty77 Raise   £29.00 £46.50 £109.90
ajs4385 Call   £21.00 £67.50 £107.09
Flop
   
  • 10
  • J
  • K
     
scotty77 Check        
ajs4385 Check        
Turn
   
  • K
     
scotty77 Check        
ajs4385 Check        
River
   
  • 7
     
scotty77 Check        
ajs4385 All-in   £107.09 £174.59 £0.00
           
           
           
           
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  • harvey23harvey23 Member Posts: 433
    edited July 2010
    bet flop about £30 and call there shove

    e z game.
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  • dav1964dav1964 Member Posts: 2,526
    edited July 2010
    Hmmm all i can think of is A Q or POCKET 7s.I may well call but i reckon i lose.
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  • richtearichtea Member Posts: 143
    edited July 2010
    Fold. You're losing to so many hands that are in his range. If i were you I'd have put some form of feeler bet out earlier (cue Harvey to slate this play)
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited July 2010
    just find a couple of weird one pair hands that he flats pre and put him on QQ vbetting and cawl.
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  • harvey23harvey23 Member Posts: 433
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: 100nl AA in a 4b pot yucky river decision:
    Fold. You're losing to so many hands that are in his range. If i were you I'd have put some form of feeler bet out earlier (cue Harvey to slate this play)
    Posted by richtea
    yeah feel bet, and fold which is terriable, dont know why people still advise it. It comments like yours that makes me want to snap despoit at skypoker and pwn everyone.


    its a 4bet pot, you have AA, hands like these are coolers, In the long run they will all even out and you will be at £0. its like when you have KK v AA all in pre flop, after a year it will even out and you will be on both ends the same amount of time.

    This hand is no differnt, just bet and call a shove, sometimes they show JJ, sometimes they show AK and your ahead, it dont really matter, the hand plays it self. its 4bet pre and you have AA OMGZ.

    be more worried about the smaller pots were you win and lose 20-50bb each hand, they are the ones that make you a winner or a loser, not these hands which are so standard its un true.
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  • ybyb Member Posts: 1,471
    edited July 2010
    I fold, I can't think of 1 hand that he would play this way that we beat as I'm pretty sure that this villain wouldn't shove QQ here.

    Fwiw I like the flop check.
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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited July 2010

    He has 1010/ JJ prob, just chuck it

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  • OMahonyOOMahonyO Member Posts: 1,883
    edited July 2010
    Out of interest, why did you not bet flop? were you looking to cr?

    I cant call river, are these ever bluffs.  Esp with him having another 378 tables to contend with
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  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: 100nl AA in a 4b pot yucky river decision:
    Out of interest, why did you not bet flop? were you looking to cr? I cant call river, are these ever bluffs.  Esp with him having another 378 tables to contend with
    Posted by OMahonyO
    what is he calling a 4bet with that doesn't conect to that flop?  AK and QQ but I think that he gets QQ in v me pre so only AK that I'm ahead of.
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  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited July 2010
    cant believe how bad villain plays this hand tbh.
    bet ~20 on flop dont fold win monies ez game
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  • ajs4385ajs4385 Member Posts: 455
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: 100nl AA in a 4b pot yucky river decision:
    cant believe how bad villain plays this hand tbh. bet ~20 on flop dont fold win monies ez game
    Posted by LOL_RAISE
    +1

    I am one of better regs on site honest.

    In my defence I had a couple of other tricky decisions on other tables at same time.
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  • richtearichtea Member Posts: 143
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: 100nl AA in a 4b pot yucky river decision:
    bet flop about £30 and call there shove e z game.
    Posted by harvey23
    What's the difference between this and my suggestion of a feeler bet?? I don't recall saying I'd fold if he shoved...

    I agree with you that if he then shoves and you call and he shows JJ/TT it's just a cooler, but as the hand panned out I think I'd have to fold.
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: 100nl AA in a 4b pot yucky river decision:
    just find a couple of weird one pair hands that he flats pre and put him on QQ vbetting and cawl.
    Posted by beaneh

    This is the answer to the river.

    And dont listen to AJS he's terrible just tells people he's good :P
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  • dav1964dav1964 Member Posts: 2,526
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: 100nl AA in a 4b pot yucky river decision:
    In Response to Re: 100nl AA in a 4b pot yucky river decision : This is the answer to the river. And dont listen to AJS he's terrible just tells people he's good :P
    Posted by beaneh
    There was more checks in this hand than on a scotsmans kilt so why cant ajs have AQ or 77?
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  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited July 2010
    AJS put me out of my misery and show me AK plz

    looking at it again you never ever play TT/JJ there.  if you turned QQ into a bluff then :top hat off to you sir:


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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: 100nl AA in a 4b pot yucky river decision:
    In Response to Re: 100nl AA in a 4b pot yucky river decision : There was more checks in this hand than on a scotsmans kilt so why cant ajs have AQ or 77?
    Posted by dav1964

    ask AJS
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