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Ok - Tear me to shreds...

CLIOKIDCLIOKID Member Posts: 783
edited August 2010 in The Poker Clinic
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
STACKS45 Small blind  £0.50 £0.50 £227.11
dee28 Big blind  £1.00 £1.50 £48.66
  Your hole cards
  • 7
  • Q
     
k88moss Fold     
CLIOKID Raise  £4.00 £5.50 £127.01
xCall  £4.00 £9.50 £157.09
bigcrawf Fold     
STACKS45 Fold     
dee28 Call  £3.00 £12.50 £45.66
Flop
   
  • 9
  • Q
  • 6
     
dee28 Check     
CLIOKID Bet  £6.00 £18.50 £121.01
x Raise  £15.00 £33.50 £142.09
dee28 Fold     
CLIOKID Call  £9.00 £42.50 £112.01
Turn
   
  • 9
     
CLIOKID Check     
xBet  £31.88 £74.38 £110.21
CLIOKID Call  £31.88 £106.26 £80.13
River
   
  • 6
     
CLIOKID Check     
xAll-in  £110.21 £216.47 £0.00
CLIOKID All-in  £80.13 £296.60 £0.00
xUnmatched bet  £30.08 £266.52 £30.08
CLIOKID Show
  • 7
  • Q
   
xShow
  • 8
  • 7
   
CLIOKID Win Two Pairs, Queens and 9s £264.72  £264.72
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  • CLIOKIDCLIOKID Member Posts: 783
    edited July 2010
    I think I probably deserve some stick for this hand so I'm going to man up and take it.

    I however feel to put forward my side of the argument.

    I 100% feel I should have folded the turn. And I would not disagree with anyone who said that.

    Once I've not though, I just cannot work out his hand on the river.

    1 - Made villain fold when he 3-bet my SB raise I flatted and check shoved flop only one orbit ago.

    2 - I can not see villain shoving flush on double paired board

    3 - I don't feel he is raising me with a 9 or a 6 on the flop, and if it was a set of either of these then he's made quads - I don't think people make quads in poker so I'm ruling these out.

    4 - There is no way he'd shove a Q on the river.

    5 - yes I am a fish without a fold button.
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited July 2010
    Great stuff, well played!

    Thinking is detremental sometimes, just go with it.

    U must have just felt something here, well deserved win, nice pot.
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited July 2010
    bet more on flop, the river makes sense, the turn doesn't, especially without reads.
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: Ok - Tear me to shreds...:
    Great stuff, well played! Thinking is detremental sometimes, just go with it. U must have just felt something here, well deserved win, nice pot.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH



    if he calls river and they have 62o or KK have we played it well!?
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  • CLIOKIDCLIOKID Member Posts: 783
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: Ok - Tear me to shreds...:
    bet more on flop, the river makes sense, the turn doesn't, especially without reads.
    Posted by beaneh
    As I say I know 100% I should have folded turn.

    Once i've not though I just couldn't work out the river and thought villain was playing back at me over the previous pot we'd just played.

    It's a call I'd make like once a month at the most.
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited July 2010

    If he shows a better hand, then of course he hasnt played it well.

    Pretty auwful - but he didnt, so he didnt....

    This is my point about people playing 10 tables at once, u have 1 game, which is a winning game over time, so u play the same all the time, with subtle differences according to the tables u play....

    U know that over time this game is gonna win you money, so if ur good 60/100 times u accept this and move on.

    Id rather make the call the 60 times Im right, and fold as many of the 40 times I am behind as I possibly can.

    If I make 75/100 calls, which include all of the times I am good (60) and only 15 times when I am behind, Im already making money faster than if I just do the same thing 100 times and lose 30.

    Still room for improvement to get the other 15 right though.

    Then we have perfection

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  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: Ok - Tear me to shreds...:
    If he shows a better hand, then of course he hasnt played it well. Pretty auwful - but he didnt, so he didnt.... This is my point about people playing 10 tables at once, u have 1 game, which is a winning game over time, so u play the same all the time, with subtle differences according to the tables u play.... U know that over time this game is gonna win you money, so if ur good 60/100 times u accept this and move on. Id rather make the call the 60 times Im right, and fold as many of the 40 times I am behind as I possibly can. If I make 75/100 calls, which include all of the times I am good (60) and only 15 times when I am behind, Im already making money faster than if I just do the same thing 100 times and lose 30. Still room for improvement to get the other 15 right though. Then we have perfection
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    you have defiantly 100% lost the plot
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  • CowgomooCowgomoo Member Posts: 749
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: Ok - Tear me to shreds...:
    If he shows a better hand, then of course he hasnt played it well. Pretty auwful - but he didnt, so he didnt.... This is my point about people playing 10 tables at once, u have 1 game, which is a winning game over time, so u play the same all the time, with subtle differences according to the tables u play.... U know that over time this game is gonna win you money, so if ur good 60/100 times u accept this and move on. Id rather make the call the 60 times Im right, and fold as many of the 40 times I am behind as I possibly can. If I make 75/100 calls, which include all of the times I am good (60) and only 15 times when I am behind, Im already making money faster than if I just do the same thing 100 times and lose 30. Still room for improvement to get the other 15 right though. Then we have perfection
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    lol
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: Ok - Tear me to shreds...:
    If he shows a better hand, then of course he hasnt played it well. Pretty auwful - but he didnt, so he didnt.... This is my point about people playing 10 tables at once, u have 1 game, which is a winning game over time, so u play the same all the time, with subtle differences according to the tables u play.... U know that over time this game is gonna win you money, so if ur good 60/100 times u accept this and move on. Id rather make the call the 60 times Im right, and fold as many of the 40 times I am behind as I possibly can. If I make 75/100 calls, which include all of the times I am good (60) and only 15 times when I am behind, Im already making money faster than if I just do the same thing 100 times and lose 30. Still room for improvement to get the other 15 right though. Then we have perfection
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH

    You have no idea do you lol
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: Ok - Tear me to shreds...:
    If he shows a better hand, then of course he hasnt played it well. Pretty auwful - but he didnt, so he didnt.... This is my point about people playing 10 tables at once, u have 1 game, which is a winning game over time, so u play the same all the time, with subtle differences according to the tables u play.... U know that over time this game is gonna win you money, so if ur good 60/100 times u accept this and move on. Id rather make the call the 60 times Im right, and fold as many of the 40 times I am behind as I possibly can. If I make 75/100 calls, which include all of the times I am good (60) and only 15 times when I am behind, Im already making money faster than if I just do the same thing 100 times and lose 30. Still room for improvement to get the other 15 right though. Then we have perfection
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH

    oh man this is sooooooo gooood it hurts


    wp wp
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited July 2010

    He's either ahead on the river or behind, why do u complicate it so much.

    If he is ahead and he makes the call, he has played well.

    If he is behind and he makes the call, he has played badly.

    Simples.
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  • CowgomooCowgomoo Member Posts: 749
    edited July 2010
    There's a small part of me that thinks he still might be joking.
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: Ok - Tear me to shreds...:
    There's a small part of me that thinks he still might be joking.
    Posted by Cowgomoo

    you mean you hope for his sake he's joking lol

    it's so epic it's lol
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited July 2010
     this is getting too much like 2+2 why the **** would dohhhhhh/ jj lie he aint harvey the greatest ever player!

    hes calling it how he sees it and wins money consistently so cant really argue with that, jealousy gets you nowhere ppl why would he want to fool a bunch of fools! get over it!
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: Ok - Tear me to shreds...:
     this is getting too much like 2+2 why the **** would dohhhhhh/ jj lie he aint harvey the greatest ever player! hes calling it how he sees it and wins money consistently so cant really argue with that, jealousy gets you nowhere ppl why would he want to fool a bunch of fools! get over it!
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN

    Jealousy is a very hard emotion to control for me :(
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  • zingzing Member Posts: 333
    edited July 2010
    [X] disguised brag post

    [ ] dohh isn't results orientated in the slightest


    atleast the river is wp
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: Ok - Tear me to shreds...:
    [X] disguised brag post [ ] dohh isn't results orientated in the slightest atleast the river is wp
    Posted by zing


    [ x  ] Lawl
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  • waynecwaynec Member Posts: 1,023
    edited July 2010
    You need Harveys finale word on this one.... is he on holiday no posts?

    You must have had a feeling you were ahead to call... u was u won well played!!!!!!
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  • TopTopGunTopTopGun Member Posts: 96
    edited July 2010
    Cliokid this play is so weird why where you raising Q7 then calling all the way with TPWK. This must of been player pacific, what was happening at this table to make you play this way. Could you tell me a little bit more about what your thought process was on this hand and what you thought villain maybe had.
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  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited July 2010
    his through process was this:

    preflop - soooted Q high in CO = raise
    flop = TP = bet, villain raises  = he has fd, i cawl
    turn: 95% of his drawing hands have me beat, i cawl
    river: he isnt shoving a frush here so i lose to quads or Q9, i cawl
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