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Unlucky or could i lay it down?

McGooookMcGooook Member Posts: 30
edited August 2010 in The Poker Clinic
Just played this hand in the 2.20 deep stack.
. Small blind  10.00 10.00 4970.00
McGooook Big blind  20.00 30.00 5332.50
  Your hole cards
  • 8
  • 3
     
V Call  20.00 50.00 4657.50
. Fold     
. Fold     
.Fold     
. Fold     
McGooook Check     
Flop
   
  • 8
  • 3
  • K
     
McGooook Bet  40.00 90.00 5292.50
V Call  40.00 130.00 4617.50
Turn
   
  • 5
     
McGooook Bet  100.00 230.00 5192.50
V Raise  240.00 470.00 4377.50
McGooook Raise  540.00 1010.00 4652.50
V Call  400.00 1410.00 3977.50
River
   
  • 4
     
McGooook Bet  500.00 1910.00 4152.50
V Raise  1705.00 3615.00 2272.50
McGooook Call  1205.00 4820.00 2947.50
V Show
  • Q
  • 8
   
McGooook Show
  • 8
  • 3
   
V Win Flush to the Queen 4820.00  7092.50
has left me with the lowest chipstack in the tournament after the second hand. lol...
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  • CLIOKIDCLIOKID Member Posts: 783
    edited August 2010
    I'd flat the raise on the turn and check call river.

    Bottom two is not a monster and a bit of caution required, bet calling the river is not really an option.

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  • DannyMcsDannyMcs Member Posts: 471
    edited August 2010
    I know you weren't happy about this Mcgook, but I think you let me in. Your bet size on the flop didn't scream "King!" and as I also had the 8 with a decent kicker it's worth seeing the turn. When that brought a club I was always going to see the river unless you put a crazy bet in.

    Honestly the clamour on the table at that amazed me, you'd think it was the first backdoor flush in the history of poker.


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  • DannyMcsDannyMcs Member Posts: 471
    edited August 2010
    I put you on 88 with a worse kicker than me, btw, so once again it's allowing a bad read to outdraw you. My meeting the re-raise on the turn might look funny to some people on paper but Mcgook and I already had a handful of raise/re-raise situations so it wasn't neccessarily a sign of a monster.

    In your position I'd definitly be thinking trips or higher 2 pair by the river, and laying it down. Just sod's law it was the flush rather than either of those.
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  • McGooookMcGooook Member Posts: 30
    edited August 2010
    i bet small on the flop so that you would call if you had middle pair. if you had top pair then great.

    you're right, the re-raise ont he turn made no sense whatsoever.
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited August 2010

    Sorry to say mcgook but you price him in here, welcome to the forum!

    on the flop i would potsize, & turn again especially to get rid of the backdoor flush draw. all the signs were there, by the river your not beating alot there is straight & flush out but had to really call as your getting 3-1 although worth noting you are only really beating a bluff or TPTK player

    If bet more each street you would have taken this down, on that flop by no means the nuts so no point building the pot get as much in as possible

    thats how i see it

    Regards

    John

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  • DannyMcsDannyMcs Member Posts: 471
    edited August 2010
    Well I went on to win the deepy so at least your chips were put to good use :)
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