Hey, you did indeed rail me at the end of that, thanks
The thing I see with rebuys is, it's all about how you view them- and you view them the same way I do, up to a point. The difference is, I see that as positive to my chances rather than negative. If you have a player who is willing to gamble with less than premium hands, your odds of getting your money in good with premium hands AND getting paid improves, thus so do your chances. If they then rebuy, that's another 1/5 of a seat you're playing for, not to mention you now double their chip stack.
They rebuy for 3000, you have 6000. You have another race, and they suck out on you this time- you still have your 3k starting stack, and the prizepool has increased. Alternatively, more often than not they won't suck out on you, you've now tripled up and there's potentially 2/5 of a seat extra up for grabs if they're that loose.
The rebuy is good all round IMO, my bankroll is tiny and this event is certainly out of my reach- as are things like buying in direct to primo and 8k BH. I kinda understand your viewpoint, but I truly believe if you're disciplined enough to avoid rebuying at all, and instead move on to the next satellite, a rebuy tournament offers low BR players a BETTER chance, not worse of achieving their goal.
How about offering a mixture? For every rebuy satellite, there's a standard freezeout- I'd actually love to see rebuy satellites possible for primo and other big tournaments too, as long as there are standard ones to avoid arguments.
In Response to Re: Bet on the grand final! : Charles.....where do I start on this one? Yes, everyone realises how big a tournament this is and I genuinely do not begrudge anyone who has the BR to buy in direct as the option is there and should be used. The whole point of sats IMO is to give an opportunity to the smaller BR players a fair chance to play in a big tournament. I am always going to fight the corner of the smaller BR player on here and for you to ' sugest' that this Final would not be right for those is totally ludicrous and well out of order IMHO. Like the WSOP (where you could qualify for as little as £5 BTW!), it is an event where you could be competing with the best players around which is a marvellous concept which you do not get in any other sport I can think of. A point that has been said a thousand times before but is definitely worth repeating in this case is......A players BR balance does not necessarily reflect a players ability. In a world that is full of those who have, and those who have not, poker sometimes lets them two worlds meet. And yes, we are mates, and hopefully you will understand my point of view. Regards, Alan Posted by MAXALLY
Yes I do understand your point and 100% agree with everything you said!
There just seems to be a bizzarre thing at skypoker, so many players want the small buyin satelites for tournaments which is all well and good, but nobody seems to play them. I'm not sure how this happens, 1 week the forum is full of threads saying we need cheaper satelites, then the next week they are saying none of them are running lol.
p.s WHEN you satelite in meet me at the bar you can buy me a drink with the money you saved by sateliting in.
EDIT: - Me being a bit slow iv just picked up on what you interpreted my post to be about!... I was at no point saying smaller BR players are not the same standard as larger BR players, I think we all know that. Yes GENERALLY there is corrolation with that but by no means is that a written rule.
All I was trying to say was as its a bigger buyin tournament, you may need to spend a bit more to satelite than you would in other events.
In Response to Re: Bet on the grand final! : Yes I do understand your point and 100% agree with everything you said! There just seems to be a bizzarre thing at skypoker, so many players want the small buyin satelites for tournaments which is all well and good, but nobody seems to play them. I'm not sure how this happens, 1 week the forum is full of threads saying we need cheaper satelites, then the next week they are saying none of them are running lol. p.s WHEN you satelite in meet me at the bar you can buy me a drink with the money you saved by sateliting in. Posted by FlashFlush
Hi guys, nice odds there on some of the guys, but its no good as im going to win it lol
I played in the 1st SPT at DTD , i won a seat that time, and i just come back to skypoker as i stoped playing online for some time, i came back last week and played the £24 sat for the SPT and came 2nd and won a seat!
as for rebuys they are there for all to play, to try and win a seat for alot less than the buyin, if you dont like rebuys then dont play them and pay the £24 and play the sim and try and win a seat.
i played in the gutshot open in london and came in 10th that was also £220 buyin, dont play so much online any more, i try and get out once aweek to play live poker,
can not wait for this game at DTD
ill be the one with the old skypoker top on that we got in the 1st SPT at DTD, ( my lucky top) lol
Played the rebuy last night. 4 Entrants yielded 2 seats. After the hour I took the decision to add-on as I knew the worst that could happen was finishing 3rd and losing 40p. In the end I got through for a tenner - result. Shame I played like a donk in the semi.
i think rebuys are great value personally, do you know at any stage whether you will be able to give me a price on winning the tourney or reaching the final table etc. Would I be allowed to bet on this or friends only.
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The thing I see with rebuys is, it's all about how you view them- and you view them the same way I do, up to a point. The difference is, I see that as positive to my chances rather than negative. If you have a player who is willing to gamble with less than premium hands, your odds of getting your money in good with premium hands AND getting paid improves, thus so do your chances. If they then rebuy, that's another 1/5 of a seat you're playing for, not to mention you now double their chip stack.
They rebuy for 3000, you have 6000. You have another race, and they suck out on you this time- you still have your 3k starting stack, and the prizepool has increased. Alternatively, more often than not they won't suck out on you, you've now tripled up and there's potentially 2/5 of a seat extra up for grabs if they're that loose.
The rebuy is good all round IMO, my bankroll is tiny and this event is certainly out of my reach- as are things like buying in direct to primo and 8k BH. I kinda understand your viewpoint, but I truly believe if you're disciplined enough to avoid rebuying at all, and instead move on to the next satellite, a rebuy tournament offers low BR players a BETTER chance, not worse of achieving their goal.
How about offering a mixture? For every rebuy satellite, there's a standard freezeout- I'd actually love to see rebuy satellites possible for primo and other big tournaments too, as long as there are standard ones to avoid arguments.
In Response to Re: Bet on the grand final!: Yes I do understand your point and 100% agree with everything you said!
There just seems to be a bizzarre thing at skypoker, so many players want the small buyin satelites for tournaments which is all well and good, but nobody seems to play them. I'm not sure how this happens, 1 week the forum is full of threads saying we need cheaper satelites, then the next week they are saying none of them are running lol.
p.s WHEN you satelite in meet me at the bar you can buy me a drink with the money you saved by sateliting in.
EDIT: - Me being a bit slow iv just picked up on what you interpreted my post to be about!... I was at no point saying smaller BR players are not the same standard as larger BR players, I think we all know that. Yes GENERALLY there is corrolation with that but by no means is that a written rule.
All I was trying to say was as its a bigger buyin tournament, you may need to spend a bit more to satelite than you would in other events.
"Pot of tea for three, please".
I played in the 1st SPT at DTD , i won a seat that time, and i just come back to skypoker as i stoped playing online for some time, i came back last week and played the £24 sat for the SPT and came 2nd and won a seat!
as for rebuys they are there for all to play, to try and win a seat for alot less than the buyin, if you dont like rebuys then dont play them and pay the £24 and play the sim and try and win a seat.
i played in the gutshot open in london and came in 10th that was also £220 buyin, dont play so much online any more, i try and get out once aweek to play live poker,
can not wait for this game at DTD
ill be the one with the old skypoker top on that we got in the 1st SPT at DTD, ( my lucky top) lol
last longer anyone??
thanks