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BRYAN ORYAN INVESTIGATES PART 6 "RANDOM GENERATOR CARD DEALING TYPE STUFF"

bryan1960bryan1960 Member Posts: 205
edited August 2010 in Poker Chat

Bryan and i were playing cards 2 day and were met by constant whinging about this our beloved site.Its fixed to make more action, and therefore sky more money etc was the cry.Of course everyone has there own opinion on this delicate matter.But the guy in question has a bit of knowledge on the subject and made some good points.The main point being that i quote "nowhere on this site does it state that the poker cards dealt by a random card generator".Any brainiacs out there please feel welcome to enlighten us with your wisdom to try and put everyones mind at rest,  would be more than welcome.By the way,on the slots section it does state this random generator device thingy.I (we) believe in the random scenario,but out there theres so much confusion we are now formerly asking the powers that be from sky to state if or not the cards are randomly generated by this random generator thingy or not.This needs to be put to bed for once and for all,AND THATS THAT.yours bryan oryan (private investigator(s).

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  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited August 2010
    all i can say is " i hope so"
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  • dav1964dav1964 Member Posts: 2,526
    edited August 2010
    I cant see how it is randomly generated as each deal is already pre-determined so when that deal was installed in the generator the outcome was already KNOWN surely.It is up to the players to DECIDE whether to continue in the HAND or not.Whereas in LIVE poker nobody KNOWS what the outcome can possibly be,If this is WRONG then someone please enlighten me as this is what i have come to understand,dav
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  • NoseyBonkNoseyBonk Member Posts: 6,184
    edited August 2010
    This site doesn't use a software RnG, Hand Picker Harry does it all himself.
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  • bryan1960bryan1960 Member Posts: 205
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: BRYAN ORYAN INVESTIGATES PART 6 "RANDOM GENERATOR CARD DEALING TYPE STUFF":
    I cant see how it is randomly generated as each deal is already pre-determined so when that deal was installed in the generator the outcome was already KNOWN surely.It is up to the players to DECIDE whether to continue in the HAND or not.Whereas in LIVE poker nobody KNOWS what the outcome can possibly be,If this is WRONG then someone please enlighten me as this is what i have come to understand,dav
    Posted by dav1964
    if each deal is pre determined ,that itself could lead to the powers that be to make lots of interesting hands out there in order to generate action,as the conspiracy theorists suggest,interesting,indeed
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  • bryan1960bryan1960 Member Posts: 205
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: BRYAN ORYAN INVESTIGATES PART 6 "RANDOM GENERATOR CARD DEALING TYPE STUFF":
    This site doesn't use a software RnG, Hand Picker Harry does it all himself.
    Posted by NoseyBonk
    harry the chips ramsden,is that the 1?
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  • NoseyBonkNoseyBonk Member Posts: 6,184
    edited August 2010
    In Response to BRYAN ORYAN INVESTIGATES PART 6 "RANDOM GENERATOR CARD DEALING TYPE STUFF":
    Bryan and i were playing cards 2 day and were met by constant whinging about this our beloved site.Its fixed to make more action, and therefore sky more money etc was the cry.Of course everyone has there own opinion on this delicate matter.But the guy in question has a bit of knowledge on the subject and made some good points.The main point being that i quote "nowhere on this site does it state that the poker cards dealt by a random card generator".Any brainiacs out there please feel welcome to enlighten us with your wisdom to try and put everyones mind at rest,  would be more than welcome.By the way,on the slots section it does state this random generator device thingy.I (we) believe in the random scenario,but out there theres so much confusion we are now formerly asking the powers that be from sky to state if or not the cards are randomly generated by this random generator thingy or not.This needs to be put to bed for once and for all,AND THATS THAT.yours bryan oryan (private investigator(s).
    Posted by bryan1960
    The following text has been copy/pasted from this very site - enjoy :)



    We've been somewhat surprised by the popularity of discussions focused on randomness or fairness of our poker application.

    As stated elsehwere our software is fully independently tested (by industry-leading experts) and we're regulated by the AGCC - however maybe there's little point to going over this again.

    So - we thought we'd provide a dedicated area for our conspiracy theorists to get things off their chest, maybe feel better and still continue to play on our site!

    I'll leave you with a wee thought...

    Q. What does the random number generator in our poker software actually do?

    A. It shuffles (very effectively) 52 cards once per hand - and once only

    That's all really.

    For example - if there are 6 people seated at the table - the software shuffles the cards - then deals 2 cards per player and the three flop cards.

    Which players then fold, call or bet is irrelevent - the turn card is the same card that was next in the deck from the original shuffle. In this example it would be the 16th card (given the numbers seated at the table before the hand was dealt).

    The same applies to the river card - it is the card that is next in the deck from the original shuffle. In this example the river card would be the 17th card in the deck from the original shuffle.

    So the question is - with only one shuffle per hand  and no randomisation between the flop, turn and river cards being dealt - plus no prior knowledge (how could we?) of which players will fold - bluff, slow play etc - how do we still manage to produce all these bad beats?

    Answers on a postcard...
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  • MereNoviceMereNovice Member Posts: 4,364
    edited August 2010
    In Response to BRYAN ORYAN INVESTIGATES PART 6 "RANDOM GENERATOR CARD DEALING TYPE STUFF":
    Bryan and i were playing cards 2 day and were met by constant whinging about this our beloved site.Its fixed to make more action, and therefore sky more money etc was the cry.Of course everyone has there own opinion on this delicate matter.But the guy in question has a bit of knowledge on the subject and made some good points.The main point being that i quote "nowhere on this site does it state that the poker cards dealt by a random card generator".Any brainiacs out there please feel welcome to enlighten us with your wisdom to try and put everyones mind at rest,  would be more than welcome.By the way,on the slots section it does state this random generator device thingy.I (we) believe in the random scenario,but out there theres so much confusion we are now formerly asking the powers that be from sky to state if or not the cards are randomly generated by this random generator thingy or not.This needs to be put to bed for once and for all,AND THATS THAT.yours bryan oryan (private investigator(s).
    Posted by bryan1960

    You and "the guy" obviously carried out a thorough investigation.

    You could try reading this and this.

    You could also find these links included in many other equally pointless threads.


    It's remarkable how this forum has survived without you, really.
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