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Luck v skill

JPW33JPW33 Member Posts: 326
edited August 2010 in Poker Chat
Following on from dohhhhhhs post "are you a loser or a winner", I would be interested to know what percentage you believe NL holdem is luck and what percentage is skill ?

As a loser I would say 20% skill - 80% luck.

Im sure winners might think differently ?!!!!
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited August 2010
    i agree
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  • pomfrittespomfrittes Member Posts: 2,981
    edited August 2010


       IMO the skill in poker is making sure you have got some chips when its your turn to get lucky.
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  • SHANXTASHANXTA Member Posts: 1,507
    edited August 2010
    get ur money in ahead as much as poss - win over long term - simplez
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  • darichdarich Member Posts: 969
    edited August 2010
    70/30 skill/luck

    If it was 50/50 or luck with more than 50, then NOBODY would be professional or make any money whatsoever imo
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  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited August 2010
    how do you define skill??? i could be the 6th best player on the planet, but if i sat down with the best 5 , i am going to need a whole lotta luck!1
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  • GavinxxxxGavinxxxx Member Posts: 559
    edited August 2010
    65% Skill 35% luck, or there abouts
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  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited August 2010
    dreaming
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited August 2010
    this week/months results are alot to do with luck. poker is alot to do with skill.
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  • oynutteroynutter Member Posts: 4,773
    edited August 2010
    there is a large skill element-- especially in deep stack tournaments--- I'd say around 70/30--- some people hardly ever cash, and some cash very often--- in a long game, the skill factor is much more important than the luck---a few deep stack players have a ROI over 35 % over a few thousand games, so no way is it all luck in these games
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  • dav1964dav1964 Member Posts: 2,526
    edited August 2010
    Agree with nutter on the deepstacks.Other games i think at least 80% luck
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  • NoseyBonkNoseyBonk Member Posts: 6,184
    edited August 2010
    There's no luck in online poker, it's all about 'who you know'.... ;-)
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  • IRISHROVERIRISHROVER Member Posts: 7,606
    edited August 2010


      the bottom line is :

     luck goes around for free,

     skill tends to be earned ! 
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  • MachkaMachka Member Posts: 4,627
    edited August 2010
    I have no skill and judging by my results I'm not getting my fair share of luck either.
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  • -JINKY--JINKY- Member Posts: 435
    edited August 2010
    80% skill - 20%  luck
    Some players are lucky to have the skill .
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  • simuksimuk Member Posts: 315
    edited August 2010
    Over the long term... Luck 0%, Skill 100%!
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  • IRISHROVERIRISHROVER Member Posts: 7,606
    edited August 2010


     i think dealing with bad runs is key ,

     is a bad run bad luck ?

     luck goes around and evens out ,

     keeping the head don't !

     i say its 50/50 like a flip off a coin !

     
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited August 2010

    Heads up is definitely 99% luck!!!!!!

    I CANT WIN!
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  • elsadogelsadog Member Posts: 5,677
    edited August 2010
    With regard to cash and stt's: With good BR management skill will always overcome the varience (good luck/bad luck).

    Mtt's, particularly large field mtt's, are somewhat different: Winning an mtt without some luck is unlikely because mtt's are a do or die scenario played over and over. Winning an mtt without some degree of skill is very possible, but the chances of repeating that are very slim indeed. Repeatedly cashing and winning mtt's requires a large degree of skill with the added bit of luck.

    Putting a percentage of luck or skill to this question is nigh on impossible except to say that for consistent winning players the degree of skill must be above average.

    *(There are exceptions to the above but Phil is on holiday and it wouldn't be fair to mention it in his absence.)
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  • batman4batman4 Member Posts: 188
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: Luck v skill:
       IMO the skill in poker is making sure you have got some chips when its your turn to get lucky.
    Posted by pomfrittes
    oh-- now aint that the truth--

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  • candicandi Member Posts: 2,162
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: Luck v skill:
      the bottom line is :  luck goes around for free,  skill tends to be earned ! 
    Posted by IRISHROVER
    + 1 xx
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