I forgot to add the bet in the first thing I just did £2 to win £1! loooooooooooool
I might have saved myself £2....
Is it a call then?
£2 to win £3 then we need 2/5ths of 100 that is 40% as u say.......
So have we got it?
(I realllllly dont understand this stuff, and no way cud I work it out in 15 seconds, wudnt even get close, so the call is roughly right? i.e not terrible then?)
They shud have spent more time teaching us to learn how to manipulate numbers in maths!!! Instead of floppin letters and SOHCAHTOHA!
Theres £3 in the pot, with £2 to call? I forgot to add the bet in the first thing I just did £2 to win £1! loooooooooooool I might have saved myself £2.... Is it a call then? £2 to win £3 then we need 2/5ths of 100 that is 40% as u say....... So have we got it? (I realllllly dont understand this stuff, and no way cud I work it out in 15 seconds, wudnt even get close, so the call is roughly right? i.e not terrible then?) They shud have spent more time teaching us to learn how to manipulate numbers in maths!!! Instead of floppin letters and SOHCAHTOHA! Posted by DOHHHHHHH
Yup.
The maths to work out 40% isn't all that hard. You then have to make guesses as to whether you have the required % or not.
As you can see I started with a range of just value 2pr + hands, then added in some draws/tp hands, then some more hands including OPs and all draws really possible. What you need to do is pay attention to the effect adding different tranches of hand strengths has. When you add some and it changes it from a fold to a call you can see that that is the most important set of hands for you to be worrying about whether he plays this way. IF he does then stack off if he doesn't then it's probably close and just the other side of a fold assuming we've thought of everything else.
The maths from pokerstove is the stuff you should be doing after the game, and in your own free time the 40% is a number you should always work out whilst you are playing and faced with a call.
I reckon when I need 40% to make the call, if I'm between 30-50% (anything more It wud be so obviously a call that I wouldn't need to think) - I rekon I'd just call and hope it comes in.
How much %age wud u have to be off the required %age for you to say its an "auwful" call in a cash game?
I really don't think I play enough hands for these marginal decisions to effect me in a negative way.....gonna end up round about even with em anyway.
i knew i was behind so im not sure calling 50bb to hit a heart is great odds imo?????? also this guy had been very passive so had to have at least 2 pair here......... Posted by donkeyplop
maybe im just too tight and didnt fancy the 1 in 4 chance of hitting the heart. super nit.........................................;) Posted by donkeyplop
you can hit hearts, jacks, two pair outs. it's not a big mistake either way depending on how your opponent plays.
I only asked if he had called would have given u better odds on the pot, hard one m8 i wud not know what to do here so if in doubt fold IMO Posted by waynecure
In Response to Re: top pair flush draw..... call or fold? : How do we need 66%? Its 40.6% if my maths is correct...in fact you never need more than 50% equity to make a call correct not including rake. Posted by yb
board is 45678r we play the board. villain bets pot into us, we are calling a pot bet in order to win half of the pot. so we need to chop 67%+ for call to be profitable
In Response to Re: top pair flush draw..... call or fold? : board is 45678r we play the board. villain bets pot into us, we are calling a pot bet in order to win half of the pot. so we need to chop 67%+ for call to be profitable Posted by LOL_RAISE
When we're calling to chop our equity is divided by 2 no? So if we need to chop 67% of the time then we need 33.5% equity.
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BTW i call
super nit.........................................;)
the all in was from the villain......................
my bad