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What would you do in this situation?

KristopherKristopher Member Posts: 9
edited August 2010 in The Poker Clinic
Hi everyone, I was playing live in the Circus Casino in Liverpool last friday night and this hand arose. I'd like a bit of advice as to whether I did the correct thing and why I did or did not.

Bit of info: it was a £25d/c freezeout and 116 players entered. At this point there was 14 players left and the top 11 got paid.

Blinds were 2k/4k, ante was 300, my chipstack was 17.5k

7 Players on my table, I was in the cut off.

UTG and UTG +1 fold, then another short stack shoves for 17k, I look at my hand and I have a,q off suit. There are 3 players behind me, with the SB and BB both having very big stacks.
The player who shoved has been on my table for a while, I have seen him in the poker many times and I know him to be a tight aggressive player and he is very experienced. When he shoved he just looked up towards the ceiling as I asked for a count.

I then dwelled up for a while before folding my a,q.

Do you think I done the correct thing here? I've been thinking about it since and I'm not sure as to whether I did or not (I would state his hand but he didn't tell me what he had) although he said afterwards that he didn't blame me at all for folding a,q, as he would have probably done the same thing in my spot.

So to sum things up:
I have a,q, tight player with short stack shoves, 3 players behind me, 2 of whom have big stacks, 14 players left and 11 got paid. Did I do the right thing here?

Any feedback either agreeing or disagreeing with my fold is much appreciated.

P.S. I went out a few hands later when I open shoved with a,j off suit, only to find that one of the big stacks had a,k suited. I came 13th (and it was on friday the 13th as well!)
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  • theneonstheneons Member Posts: 276
    edited August 2010
    i think folding AQo when someone has shoved AIPF is the right thing to do. You would want to be the one shoving here, not the one having to call a shove, as you know there is a good chance he might have you beat with AA, KK, QQ AKs, AKo, and maybe even JJ and TT.

    you did the right thing. UL on finishing out the money.
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited August 2010
    Definite fold.


    Wp.

    Excellent hand history, good situation description, good stack size information, includes reads.

    GL next donkament. :)
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited August 2010
    Right thing to do as Neons says id want to be open shoving. I also think you done the correct with the AJ as you where the opener unlucky.

    Never pounder on a desision afterwards aswell mate, means you often make the wrong one next time.
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited August 2010
    also 17k at 200/400 for a live tournie is like the deepest of the deep stacked. 40bbs you can go and get a meal and come back.


    people fold down to 7 or 8 bbs it's incredibly bad.
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  • ybyb Member Posts: 1,471
    edited August 2010
    Lol how is this a good fold with 4bb's?!?! :S
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited August 2010
    right to fold sir, if noone had called or shoved before then you could shove in this spot . you dont want to be calling with aq especially against a tight player would be at least a race against pp or they could even have you with AK
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  • CLIOKIDCLIOKID Member Posts: 783
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: What would you do in this situation?:
    Lol how is this a good fold with 4bb's?!?! :S
    Posted by yb
    This.

    That guy is going to be shoving lighter than AQ and a lot of the time.

    Get em in.
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited August 2010
    actually scrap that thought u were deeper, snap call and hope your queens good or you get lucky as your not going to get much better spots
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  • theneonstheneons Member Posts: 276
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: What would you do in this situation?:
    also 17k at 200/400 for a live tournie is like the deepest of the deep stacked. 40bbs you can go and get a meal and come back. people fold down to 7 or 8 bbs it's incredibly bad.
    Posted by beaneh
    lol

    2000/4000

    taxi for beaneh
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited August 2010
    omg i cant read


    shoot me in the face



    now assume it was 200/400 17k is alot



    omg now it all changes how do we have 4bbs. I don't fold lol













    TAXI
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: What would you do in this situation?:
    Definite fold. Wp. Excellent hand history, good situation description, good stack size information, includes reads. GL next donkament. :)
    Posted by beaneh

    Dont listen to this idiot when he says fold, it's a call, the rest is still applicable though.
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  • SHANXTASHANXTA Member Posts: 1,507
    edited August 2010
    lol i was wondering as I read down this thread!

    snap call 4me
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