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Well out of position with top, top in multi-way pot.

CLIOKIDCLIOKID Member Posts: 783
edited August 2010 in The Poker Clinic
CLIOKID Small blind  £0.25 £0.25 £111.78
smp123 Big blind  £0.50 £0.75 £32.81
  Your hole cards
  • Q
  • A
     
A Call  £0.50 £1.25 £56.15
mckean04 Fold     
BRaise  £2.00 £3.25 £77.88
C Call  £2.00 £5.25 £48.31
CLIOKID Call  £1.75 £7.00 £110.03
DCall  £1.50 £8.50 £31.31
ACall  £1.50 £10.00 £54.65
Flop
   
  • 7
  • Q
  • J
     
CLIOKID
Ok.

AQ o/s out of the SB, I'll 3-bet this maybe about half the time dependant on who raises etc. Elect to flat as the limper utg is solid enough player, and the raiser is also solid so i'm guessing he knows utg has some sort of hand and is still prepared to raise.

Flop top, top. Obviously a wet board. I don't really want to c/r this sort of board as only going to get action from hands that have me crushed. c/c is a bit sucky as I find out nothing, allow others into pots with draws and give free cards out to the better. Whats the best thing to do here?
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited August 2010
    I donk out a Pot bet £10, then re-assess. mainly to thin the field and protect against draws

    also if they fold then wouldn't mind taking the pot, hand not shown with what could be a dangerous board especially if multiway
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited August 2010
    as young gun says i donkbet. although im more of a check/raise fan. but youhve said u do not wsh to do this
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited August 2010
    how do ABCD play? 

    Don't fold.


    c/c or c/r if they'll call with worse obv!
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  • harvey23harvey23 Member Posts: 433
    edited August 2010
    i like 3betting pre here, AQ is not gonna play well OOP mutli way fwiw.

    the way you play it on the flop is depdentant on villains
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  • CLIOKIDCLIOKID Member Posts: 783
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: Well out of position with top, top in multi-way pot.:
    how do ABCD play?  Don't fold. c/c or c/r if they'll call with worse obv!
    Posted by beaneh
    B c-bets most flops, C has just joined the table, A is quite TAG, not seen alot but seem a strongish player, D is a fish.

    I decided to donk out on the flop, thought this was the best way to thin the field and if i face a raise I'm getting out of there.

    I don't know why but I only donked out for a 5er, should have made it 7/8 I think.

    I never really consider the donk bet but for this situation I thought it probably the best way to play and just wanted to gauge other opinions on this as explained I wasn't sure c/c or c/r were viable in these spots.


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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited August 2010

    How about folding pre flop?

    What wud u think of that?
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: Well out of position with top, top in multi-way pot.:
    How about folding pre flop? What wud u think of that?
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH

    I'd think you misclicked.
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited August 2010
    5 is way too small to lead, 8 ftw. would rather c/c though I think depending on the players ofc.
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  • CLIOKIDCLIOKID Member Posts: 783
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: Well out of position with top, top in multi-way pot.:
    5 is way too small to lead, 8 ftw. would rather c/c though I think depending on the players ofc.
    Posted by beaneh
    Defo should have led for more.

    I knew this.

    Just not a spot come across too often, AQ multi-way when I'm not the pre-flop aggressor.

    I didn't fancy c/c as sooo many turn cards I'm going to hate, I thought donking out I would get rid of a couple of players and re-assess turn.

    If I'm raised after donking out then I'm folding.


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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: Well out of position with top, top in multi-way pot.:
    In Response to Re: Well out of position with top, top in multi-way pot. : Defo should have led for more. I knew this. Just not a spot come across too often, AQ multi-way when I'm not the pre-flop aggressor. I didn't fancy c/c as sooo many turn cards I'm going to hate, I thought donking out I would get rid of a couple of players and re-assess turn. If I'm raised after donking out then I'm folding.
    Posted by CLIOKID

    erm, is the pfr always betting this board multiway? if not then leading is probably better. if they do then c/r ftw :)
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: Well out of position with top, top in multi-way pot.:
    How about folding pre flop? What wud u think of that?
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH

    most likely squeeze > call > fold imo
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  • CLIOKIDCLIOKID Member Posts: 783
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: Well out of position with top, top in multi-way pot.:
    In Response to Re: Well out of position with top, top in multi-way pot. : erm, is the pfr always betting this board multiway? if not then leading is probably better. if they do then c/r ftw :)
    Posted by beaneh
    They have enough savvy not to bet this kind of flop without something. So no way is it gtd for them to bet out.
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  • waynecwaynec Member Posts: 1,023
    edited August 2010
    You called with AQ in SB knowing it was a 3 way pot so this flop is is as good as we hoped for. IMO you have to bet or raise a continuation bet if you get action its down to your reads.
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  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited August 2010
    so wayne your plan would be to check/raise and then decide what  to do next after you get 3bet or called?
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  • big_mick12big_mick12 Member Posts: 210
    edited August 2010
    Anyone Squeeze this to £6??? If utg was solid shouldnt be limping utg with any sort of strong hand. Button iso-raiser should also respect that you havnt done this before
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  • CLIOKIDCLIOKID Member Posts: 783
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: Well out of position with top, top in multi-way pot.:
    Anyone Squeeze this to £6??? If utg was solid shouldnt be limping utg with any sort of strong hand. Button iso-raiser should also respect that you havnt done this before
    Posted by big_mick12
    If it was a squeeze it'd be to £8.50.

    And i've done it to the iso-raiser allllllllllllllot over the times we've played!
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  • ybyb Member Posts: 1,471
    edited August 2010
    I actually like the donk lead to get value out of sd's/fd's/worse Q's, especially if we dont think the pf raiser is going to c-bet much and/or may check behind with hands with s/d value like AJ etc.
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