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NL20 - River Straight on Paired Board

YoungUnYoungUn Member Posts: 422
edited August 2010 in The Poker Clinic
No reads on either player, haven't seen either before this session and I haven't seen anything out of the ordinary from either of them.
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
Player XSmall blind  £0.10 £0.10 £21.45
 Big blind  £0.20 £0.30 £19.37
 Sit out     
  Your hole cards
  • K
  • J
     
Player YRaise  £0.90 £1.20 £22.14
 Fold     
YoungUn Call  £0.90 £2.10 £27.83
Player XCall  £0.80 £2.90 £20.65
 Fold     
Flop
   
  • 9
  • 9
  • 10
     
Player XCheck     
Player YCheck     
YoungUn Check     
Turn
   
  • 2
     
Player XCheck     
Player YCheck     
YoungUn Check     
River
   
  • Q
     
Player XBet  £2.18 £5.08 £18.47
Player YCall  £2.18 £7.26 £19.96
YoungUn
Do we just call? If we raise, how much?
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Comments

  • harvey23harvey23 Member Posts: 433
    edited August 2010
    raise to £7~ fold to a jam.
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited August 2010
    i probaqbly re-raise about double their bets, not interest has been whon till this point and its unlikley they have QQ or Q9.
  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited August 2010

    Just a flat call for me, just in case lol

    i have a feeling i could be chopping the pot with player X tho


  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited August 2010
    fold preflop if you dont raise river.
  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: NL20 - River Straight on Paired Board:
    fold preflop if you dont raise river.
    Posted by beaneh
    i would normally fold preflop, i hate calling a raise with KJ, horrid hand
  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited August 2010
    As I said if you're going to play it raising this river is a must.
  • waynecwaynec Member Posts: 1,023
    edited August 2010
    Half the pot if your wanting to build the pot! does the player know you? If he does will he smell a rat so maybe play it as if on a draw.
  • SHANXTASHANXTA Member Posts: 1,507
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: NL20 - River Straight on Paired Board:
    Half the pot if your wanting to build the pot! does the player know you? If he does will he smell a rat so maybe play it as if on a draw.
    Posted by waynecure
    w t f we're already at d river!

    and i raise to about ~£7
  • BlackFish3BlackFish3 Member Posts: 2,418
    edited August 2010
    I don't understand why you would consider just calling? If they had a boat surely they bet at flop or turn? If they do and you get stacked on the river it's just unlucky that they played it so bad and lucked out on you rivering the straight.
  • waynecwaynec Member Posts: 1,023
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: NL20 - River Straight on Paired Board:
    In Response to Re: NL20 - River Straight on Paired Board : w t f we're already at d river! and i raise to about ~£7
    Posted by SHANXTA
    Ok sure you know what I mean BUILD  THE POT WITH A VALUE BET, and play it as you had a BUSTED draw  maybe not well put. But made clear now!!!
  • SHANXTASHANXTA Member Posts: 1,507
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: NL20 - River Straight on Paired Board:
    I don't understand why you would consider just calling? If they had a boat surely they bet at flop or turn? If they do and you get stacked on the river it's just unlucky that they played it so bad and lucked out on you rivering the straight.
    Posted by BlackFish3
    on a completely diff note, i jus spotted u on pokertube, being as polite as eva!
  • BlackFish3BlackFish3 Member Posts: 2,418
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: NL20 - River Straight on Paired Board:
    In Response to Re: NL20 - River Straight on Paired Board : on a completely diff note, i jus spotted u on pokertube, being as polite as eva!
    Posted by SHANXTA
    You sure it was me? My alias on poker tube isn't blackfish. lol do i come across really not polite :( ?
  • ybyb Member Posts: 1,471
    edited August 2010
    I dont mind calling with KJo on the button and I'd probably bet this flop actually.

    As is I'd make it around £8.50 and call a shove
  • SHANXTASHANXTA Member Posts: 1,507
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: NL20 - River Straight on Paired Board:
    In Response to Re: NL20 - River Straight on Paired Board : You sure it was me? My alias on poker tube isn't blackfish. lol do i come across really not polite :( ?
    Posted by BlackFish3
    lol unless sum1 else has stolen that same photo!
  • BlackFish3BlackFish3 Member Posts: 2,418
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: NL20 - River Straight on Paired Board:
    In Response to Re: NL20 - River Straight on Paired Board : lol unless sum1 else has stolen that same photo!
    Posted by SHANXTA
    Ive used the photo but my alias isn't black fish.
  • DeucesLiveDeucesLive Member Posts: 839
    edited August 2010
    As played, auto raise for me- if someone has really played trip 9's or QQ that discreetly then wp, nh. But for the amount of times that'll be the case (very, very few) you'll make way more by raising in the long term. Second player almost guarantee you're beat.

    You can't fold massive hands every time the board pairs for fear of a boat, unless there are clear as day signals that the player has hit it. Here every single signal points to someone having a Q at most.
  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited August 2010
    Fold pre, as played i would raise about £6 with no reads this is

    your more likely ahead assume someone would be betting more with FH
  • YoungUnYoungUn Member Posts: 422
    edited August 2010
    Results:
    River
       
    • Q
         
    Player XBet  £2.18 £5.08 £18.47
    Player YCall  £2.18 £7.26 £19.96
    YoungUn Raise  £7.60 £14.86 £20.23
    Player XRaise  £10.84 £25.70 £7.63
    Player YFold     
    YoungUn Call  £5.42 £31.12 £14.81
    Player XShow
    • 10
    • 10
       
    YoungUn Show
    • K
    • J
       
    Chitta Win Full House, 10s and 9s £29.57  £37.20
    *Puke*.
  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited August 2010
    not 100% suprised here, but think still be profitable to re-raise here imo

    the FH is unlikely the way they played it but to perfection here, unlicky namesake
  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited August 2010
    id be betting the flop tbh, def raise river.
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