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One of those whaaaaaaaaaaaat-tf spots!! - Flop decision MTT

DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
edited August 2010 in The Poker Clinic

Figured out now, why I struggle in some spots...

It's because I play on memory, and habit, and do what has worked previously.

However, in spots like this, I have very little experience to call upon, as they hardly ever happen!!!!

So have a look at this and see what u think.....what wud u do here??
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
simuk Small blind  100.00 100.00 4028.00
OnlyOneCT Big blind  200.00 300.00 9295.00
  Your hole cards
  • 9
  • 9
     
Nutter5932 Fold     
Cowgomoo Raise  450.00 750.00 7292.00
phil12uk Call  450.00 1200.00 6365.00
DOHHHHHHH Call  450.00 1650.00 6910.75
simuk Fold     
OnlyOneCT Fold     
Flop
   
  • K
  • K
  • K
     
Cowgomoo Bet  825.00 2475.00 6467.00
phil12uk Call  825.00 3300.00 5540.00
DOHHHHHHH
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  • BlackFish3BlackFish3 Member Posts: 2,418
    edited August 2010
    Call. Raising turns your 9s into a bluff which is unnecessary because you might have the best hand. I don't like folding because you are only behind to TT+ and kings. I call and re-evaluate turn.
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  • TopTopGunTopTopGun Member Posts: 96
    edited August 2010
    I would be raising here to take pot down right now while you still have the best hand, there are too many bad cards that can hit the turn. 825 is such a weak bet here and with a call behind, its such a good situation for a squeeze here to take pot down and make you chip leader at your table.
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited August 2010
    i'd RR preflop


    you flatted pre because? they can have OPs? if they have OPs they have full house, if they dont have purrrr our full house wins simples.
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  • waynecwaynec Member Posts: 1,023
    edited August 2010
    This happened to me a few weeks ago with JJ of course the guy had AK and I was crushed. Whats the odds of him having a K or an over pair to your 9s??? I have no idea.
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: One of those whaaaaaaaaaaaat-tf spots!! - Flop decision MTT:
    This happened to me a few weeks ago with JJ of course the guy had AK and I was crushed. Whats the odds of him having a K or an over pair to your 9s??? I have no idea.
    Posted by waynecure

    it depends how many Kx hands he plays preflop, and how many times he plays weaker hands pre like suited connectors etc.
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  • JockBMWJockBMW Member Posts: 2,653
    edited August 2010
    With you already having 2 players in the pot, i'd figure one of them has the case king and get out.  

    Against 1 I'd raise to see how strong he thinks his hand is.....  But then I am rubbish at this game ;o) 
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited August 2010

    I decided it was just such a messy spot to be in against a v aggressive player and a very tricky player. Even tho I had position, if I got this hand wrong, it cud have been na-nites for dohh.

    Was pleased with the result.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    simuk Small blind  100.00 100.00 4028.00
    OnlyOneCT Big blind  200.00 300.00 9295.00
      Your hole cards
    • 9
    • 9
    		     
    Nutter5932 Fold     
    Cowgomoo Raise  450.00 750.00 7292.00
    phil12uk Call  450.00 1200.00 6365.00
    DOHHHHHHH Call  450.00 1650.00 6910.75
    simuk Fold     
    OnlyOneCT Fold     
    Flop
       
    • K
    • K
    • K
    		     
    Cowgomoo Bet  825.00 2475.00 6467.00
    phil12uk Call  825.00 3300.00 5540.00
    DOHHHHHHH Fold     
    Turn
       
    • 3
    		     
    Cowgomoo Check     
    phil12uk Bet  1650.00 4950.00 3890.00
    Cowgomoo Call  1650.00 6600.00 4817.00
    River
       
    • 7
    		     
    Cowgomoo Check     
    phil12uk Check     
    Cowgomoo Show
    • 10
    • 10
    		   
    phil12uk Show
    • 10
    • 10
    		   
    Cowgomoo Win Full House, Kings and 10s 3300.00  8117.00
    phil12uk Win Full House, Kings and 10s 3300.00  7190.00
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited August 2010
    Phil missed valuuuuuuuuuu!
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  • CowgomooCowgomoo Member Posts: 749
    edited August 2010
    Would you have played it the same if you were me beaneh?
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  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited August 2010
    i think if you have been active so far you should be betting the turn, phil is only going to have KQ/KJ for a better hand plus he has lots of smaller pairs.

    isnt pre a bit too small for MP open? obv dont know how table has been playing and if they are pretty nitty then sure its fine

    i imagine you are c/fing the river as played unless you know phil goes for thin value?
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited August 2010
    bet turn imo cowypoo
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