Was I right to fold?

punxxs_13

Is this a good fold on the river or should I have called?
No reads on the guy.. Can't remember playing him before.. Wasn't on the table long and he left soon after this hand.
Opinions please

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
graham1947	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£0.86
jenkins09	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£4.45
	Your hole cards	J A
punxxs_13	Raise		£0.16	£0.22	£4.20
Garles	Fold
BillyWiz68	Fold
graham1947	Fold
jenkins09	Call		£0.12	£0.34	£4.33
Flop
		7 3 J
jenkins09	Check
punxxs_13	Bet		£0.26	£0.60	£3.94
jenkins09	Call		£0.26	£0.86	£4.07
Turn
		9
jenkins09	Check
punxxs_13	Bet		£0.65	£1.51	£3.29
jenkins09	Call		£0.65	£2.16	£3.42
River
		2
jenkins09	Bet		£2.16	£4.32	£1.26
punxxs_13	Fold
jenkins09	Muck
jenkins09	Win		£2.00		£3.26
jenkins09	Return		£2.16	£0.16	£5.42

rob12345

yes i do thick u are right to fold.
hand u are looseing to he could have had qq kk aa trips slow playing or got lucky on the end wif a hands like j9
heand u are beating the flush draw or madbe kj makeing a thin bet or just a bluff
gd fold 4 me

waynec

top pair 2/1 on your money and he could have a busted flush draw or a small PP like 10-10 and under, I would have to call and spew if he showed a better hand.

waynec

In Response to Re: Was I right to fold?:

yes i do thick u are right to fold. hand u are looseing to he could have had qq kk aa trips slow playing or got lucky on the end wif a hands like j9 heand u are beating the flush draw or madbe kj makeing a thin bet or just a bluff gd fold 4 me
Posted by rob12345

Surely with KK QQ you would expect him to 3bet pre flop?

kudosss

I think how you have played the hand you could do either. I think if your not prepared to call a river bet you shouldn't be betting the turn. the 2 of spades is a brick it was a backdoor flush and he called a raise preflop and a bet on the flop. Unless hes got like 5s6s and decided just to call the flop with the gut shot. So with that in mind I would call OR not bet the turn and you can fire the river if he checks or just call.

rob12345

In Response to Re: Was I right to fold?:

In Response to Re: Was I right to fold? : Surely with KK QQ you would expect him to 3bet pre flop?
Posted by waynecure

at this level some players just call wif aa or kk and qq just slowing a hand nothing woung wif that can get gd value or loose a lot

rob12345

n Response to Re: Was I right to fold?:

top pair 2/1 on your money and he could have a busted flush draw or a small PP like 10-10 and under, I would have to call and spew if he showed a better hand.
Posted by waynecure

the player is not going v bet wif 10 he would just check call or fold then u are just turning 10 10 into a bluff and the same to all small pp

Batkin88

He was clearly searching for a card from the flop, im guessing two diamonds he wanted the third diamond! When he checks then flat calls it isnt showing any strength, its showing he wants to catch his card, because he done this from the flop i think u can discount spades from the hand. And if u can quickly put urself in his mind when he makes such a large bet on  the river ( pot size) Why would he make it so big? he doesnt want u to call it. If he wanted u to call it he would of value bet half pot max or checked then re raised!!  U should of stopped betting on turn and left the hand as dead or called him down at the end and laughed when he turned over 2 diamonds lol

waynec

In Response to Re: Was I right to fold?:

He was clearly searching for a card from the flop, im guessing two diamonds he wanted the third diamond! When he checks then flat calls it isnt showing any strength, its showing he wants to catch his card, because he done this from the flop i think u can discount spades from the hand. And if u can quickly put urself in his mind when he makes such a large bet on  the river ( pot size) Why would he make it so big? he doesnt want u to call it. If he wanted u to call it he would of value bet half pot max or checked then re raised!!  U should of stopped betting on turn and left the hand as dead or called him down at the end and laughed when he turned over 2 diamonds lol
Posted by Batkin88

This makes sense I have to agree

Batkin88

however it took me a few mins to realise this and understandably its alot harder to read it in 15 secs! I will keep put in his name in my search however and when i find him i will sit at his table and hope he carrys on this style lol

punxxs_13

Thanks for the responses.
It was a very difficult decision at the time and I was very close to calling before I folded.
Would love to know what he had.

lynx3ffect

you lose to 2 hands, 5s6s or 8T

you need to narrow his range on each streets - pre/flop you start to discount OP as he either 3bets pre or raises flop, turn, you discount 2p/sets as they raise to protect/for value

river, there are more combos of missed fd/worse Js, busted fd/sd than there are 2 spade cards or 8T so i think this is a call, on a dryer board with no draws missing the situation is different but the river is essentially a brick and if he turns over 5s6s or some funky 2p/set then gg