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slow rolling

Drebin15Drebin15 Member Posts: 7
edited September 2010 in Poker Chat
What is your view as regards slow rolling an opponent when you have the nuts?

It happened to me tonight in the 'Take on Tikay' and left a really bad taste in my mouth.

It can't have helped that I was praying for a call to my allin bet thinking I had the best hand.
 
It was a limped pot and i called with K-J on the small blind. fold was KK5 i think. opponent bet, I called thinking I was trapping. Turn was ace. bet - call again. river was a jack giving me a full house. 

I shoved all in on river(about 5000 chips). Opponent waited until timer had reached the VERY end before calling. He had AA for a bigger full house!!!! AAAKK to my KKKJJ!!!!! 

How do you stand on this!! I went away more annoyed about the slow roll than the fact I lost the hand. I'm used to being on the end of badbeats - it happens all the time. But it' s even worse when you think you have the winning hand and I was only 10 places short of the money after playing for nearly 2 hours!!!! I would have had about 16,000 if i won the hand and would have been in great shape but that's by the by.

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  • SHANXTASHANXTA Member Posts: 1,507
    edited August 2010
    there's no place for slowrolling in poker

    but some sad people still think it's 'cool' or funny

    ofc he may have had connection probs or bin multi tablin
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited August 2010

    I used to do it all the time had no idea it was wrong

    Add that to the list of acceptable reasons.

    Ne1 who knows its wrong and does it on purpose shud be forced to drink wee for a month to survive.
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  • inka2003inka2003 Member Posts: 184
    edited August 2010
    I thought that one of the top "names" on the site did it to me yesterday in very similar circumstances but you have to give the other player the benefit of the doubt here. 

    Yes, he could have been slow rolling but there are many, many reasons why it may have taken him that time to call and only he knows.

    Unlucky by the way.
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  • bandinibandini Member Posts: 1,802
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: slow rolling:
    I thought that one of the top "names" on the site did it to me yesterday in very similar circumstances but you have to give the other player the benefit of the doubt here.  Yes, he could have been slow rolling but there are many, many reasons why it may have taken him that time to call and only he knows. Unlucky by the way.
    Posted by inka2003
    I like slow rolling down hills. The fun's in trying to slow down when there's no way you can. You get all dizzy and everything at the back of it. Me and the wee man used to do it quite regularly. He just looks at me disdainfully when I do it now.

    Seriously, it could just be someone multi-tabling. I doubt any of the "names" on here would find amusement in it. Unless it was Dohhhhhh. Was it Dohhhhh? Probably.
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  • inka2003inka2003 Member Posts: 184
    edited August 2010


    In Response to Re: slow rolling:
    In Response to Re: slow rolling : I like slow rolling down hills. The fun's in trying to slow down when there's no way you can. You get all dizzy and everything at the back of it. Me and the wee man used to do it quite regularly. He just looks at me disdainfully when I do it now. Seriously, it could just be someone multi-tabling. I doubt any of the "names" on here would find amusement in it. Unless it was Dohhhhhh. Was it Dohhhhh? Probably.
    Posted by bandini
    No, it wasn't DOHHHHHH and on reflection, I'm sure it was more to do with him multi tabling.
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  • elsadogelsadog Member Posts: 5,677
    edited August 2010
    In Response to slow rolling:
    What is your view as regards slow rolling an opponent when you have the nuts? It happened to me tonight in the 'Take on Tikay' and left a really bad taste in my mouth. It can't have helped that I was praying for a call to my allin bet thinking I had the best hand.   It was a limped pot and i called with K-J on the small blind. fold was KK5 i think. opponent bet, I called thinking I was trapping. Turn was ace. bet - call again. river was a jack giving me a full house.  I shoved all in on river(about 5000 chips). Opponent waited until timer had reached the VERY end before calling. He had AA for a bigger full house!!!! AAAKK to my KKKJJ!!!!!  How do you stand on this!! I went away more annoyed about the slow roll than the fact I lost the hand. I'm used to being on the end of badbeats - it happens all the time. But it' s even worse when you think you have the winning hand and I was only 10 places short of the money after playing for nearly 2 hours!!!! I would have had about 16,000 if i won the hand and would have been in great shape but that's by the by. Hand history is: 285799565
    Posted by Drebin15
    Your opponent didn't have the nuts. It was a very big pot and his tournament was on the line. He may well have been thinking it through.


    To save you working it out you might be holding KK ...... which is the nuts. Depending on the suits (which you don't mention) there might even have been the possibility of a Royal Flush.
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  • igimcigimc Member Posts: 625
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: slow rolling:
    In Response to slow rolling : Your opponent didn't have the nuts. It was a very big pot and his tournament was on the line. He may well have been thinking it through. To save you working it out you might be holding KK ...... which is the nuts. Depending on the suits (which you don't mention) there might even have been the possibility of a Royal Flush.
    Posted by elsadog
    Oh come on!!!   You would think about calling with this hand 
    for about a millisecond.
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  • elsadogelsadog Member Posts: 5,677
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: slow rolling:
    In Response to Re: slow rolling : Oh come on!!!   You would think about calling with this hand  for about a millisecond.
    Posted by igimc
    I used to, then I crashed (at the big money end) from the biggest online event of the year with KK and a KKx flop and lost to quad Aces for an all in on the river with a KKxAA board.  Take nothing for granted.

    None of us know why it took him so long to act. Lag, multi-tabling or simply thinking. The one thing for certain is he didn't have the nuts.
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  • spornybolspornybol Member Posts: 8,212
    edited August 2010
    if i have the nuts, then i won`t be able to press the button quick enough, but sometimes it ( and only )  won`t work i have to click 3 or 4 times before it works by this this half the timer counter gone,
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  • CowgomooCowgomoo Member Posts: 749
    edited August 2010
    I hope elsadog is joking.
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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: slow rolling:
    I hope elsadog is joking.
    Posted by Cowgomoo
    I don't believe he is joking as i believe he has mentioned it to me before.

    It is one of those very rare things in poker... A "bad beat story" that is worth telling!
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  • igimcigimc Member Posts: 625
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: slow rolling:
    In Response to Re: slow rolling : I don't believe he is joking as i believe he has mentioned it to me before. It is one of those very rare things in poker... A "bad beat story" that is worth telling!
    Posted by GREGHOGG
    True but i think thats about six times i've heard it.
    I think someones still not over it.lol
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  • igimcigimc Member Posts: 625
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: slow rolling:
    if i have the nuts, then i won`t be able to press the button quick enough, but sometimes it ( and only )  won`t work i have to click 3 or 4 times before it works by this this half the timer counter gone,
    Posted by spornybol
    I agree,its very hard to accuse anyone of slow rolling on
    online poker.too many variables.
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  • CowgomooCowgomoo Member Posts: 749
    edited August 2010
    I was referring to your opponent being allowed to "think it through" with aces full because it was a big pot and his tournament was on the line.
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  • elsadogelsadog Member Posts: 5,677
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: slow rolling:
    I was referring to your opponent being allowed to "think it through" with aces full because it was a big pot and his tournament was on the line.
    Posted by Cowgomoo
    The whole point was that we don't know why he slow rolled it. Everyone isn't as sharp as you cow. Of course the chances of your opponent having KK are slim but I was ''Merely'' correcting the statement that he had the nuts ....... he didn't.


    In Vince's absence someone has to stand up and be counted :o)
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  • OMahonyOOMahonyO Member Posts: 1,883
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: slow rolling:
    I was referring to your opponent being allowed to "think it through" with aces full because it was a big pot and his tournament was on the line.
    Posted by Cowgomoo

    Agreed, you would call in a heartbeat, no matter how many bad beats you have had and how bad they have been. 

    Also, the multitabling theory.  As stated in another post I made, this is unlikely. I 8+ table,k and I can assure you, if I flop a set on any of them, the fact that I am playing another 7 means nothing.  That timer wont be going past 75% full, and its not even for ethical reasons either.  How sick would you be if if the timer got to 25% and you had connection problems for a huuuuuuge pot and ended up folding.
    I`m not saying it is unethical, it certainly is.  But locking up the big pot is more important.
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  • elsadogelsadog Member Posts: 5,677
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: slow rolling:
    In Response to Re: slow rolling : True but i think thats about six times i've heard it. I think someones still not over it.lol
    Posted by igimc
    Of course I'm not over it ......... never will be.
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  • igimcigimc Member Posts: 625
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: slow rolling:
    In Response to Re: slow rolling : Of course I'm not over it ......... never will be.
    Posted by elsadog
    LOL don't blame you.
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  • Chompy_imoChompy_imo Member Posts: 75
    edited August 2010
    LOLZ, this can only be fishing by Elsadog. If so, very high-class bait and wp sir. You got a couple in the keepnet.
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  • Drebin15Drebin15 Member Posts: 7
    edited September 2010
    In response to Elsadog. there was no flush out there. Plus their was no raise preflop.

    I know I am possibly the most cautious player around but even I would never limp with KK in the small blind with a button limper. Not when the stacks were pretty deep anyway. 

    PS knocked out of this weeks Take on Tikay with AK again!!!! I have been counting and in last ten tournies I have gone out of eight of them with this hand.  That's how bad my luck has been running lately!!!
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