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Range for 3-bet calling?

kirstiikirstii Member Posts: 787
edited September 2010 in The Poker Clinic
I was wondering what everyone would believe is a decent range for calling a standard sized 3 bet in position in cash games? Obviously with aces and kings it's very situation dependent whether you call or 4 bet but i wondered what would be a reasonable selection of hands to call or 4 bet with.

Cheers guys.

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  • SHANXTASHANXTA Member Posts: 1,507
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Range for 3-bet calling?:
    I was wondering what everyone would believe is a decent range for calling a standard sized 3 bet in position in cash games? Obviously with aces and kings it's very situation dependent whether you call or 4 bet but i wondered what would be a reasonable selection of hands to call or 4 bet with. Cheers guys.
    Posted by kirstii
    what range do you think your opponent is 3 betting with?

    are they gonna fire every flop?

    are they ever going to c/f?

    will they fold 2a 4bet?
  • kirstiikirstii Member Posts: 787
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: Range for 3-bet calling?:
    In Response to Range for 3-bet calling? : what range do you think your opponent is 3 betting with? are they gonna fire every flop? are they ever going to c/f? will they fold 2a 4bet?
    Posted by SHANXTA
    This is my main part of the question, it's not against a specific opponent, it's if you had to answer what your range would be again x player or y player what would you be calling and 4 betting with. Wondering what the range should be.
  • waynecwaynec Member Posts: 1,023
    edited August 2010
    Apart from AA cant see how anyone can answer your question as depends on players, stack size ect ect ect
  • Buster69Buster69 Member Posts: 135
    edited August 2010
    yeh good question kirstii but it all depends on table reputation and stack sizes etc if a player is continually raising then your 3 bet calling or 4 bet could be done with allsorts of hands if the player is tight then obviously that range needs to be smaller.
  • SHANXTASHANXTA Member Posts: 1,507
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: Range for 3-bet calling?:
    In Response to Re: Range for 3-bet calling? : This is my main part of the question, it's not against a specific opponent, it's if you had to answer what your range would be again x player or y player what would you be calling and 4 betting with. Wondering what the range should be.
    Posted by kirstii
    edit

    but there is no standard range, alot can depend how deep you are?

    if different situations you have to fold the same hand when someone 3bets you, that you would 4bet someone else with
  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited August 2010
    Who your opponent is kinda influences your calling range.
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: Range for 3-bet calling?:
    In Response to Re: Range for 3-bet calling? : edit but there is no standard range, alot can depend how deep you are? if different situations you have to fold the same hand when someone 3bets you, that you would 4bet someone else with
    Posted by SHANXTA
    i fully agree Shanxta.

    Id 4-bet a LAG opponent with nothing alot of the time if i had the stack to do so.

    But if i didnt have the stack or its a tight opponent i have to adapt my range. :)
  • OMahonyOOMahonyO Member Posts: 1,883
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: Range for 3-bet calling?:
    In Response to Re: Range for 3-bet calling? : i fully agree Shanxta. Id 4-bet a LAG opponent with nothing alot of the time if i had the stack to do so. But if i didnt have the stack or its a tight opponent i have to adapt my range. :)
    Posted by The_Don90

    I dunno if you are still in an around the 4/8nl area, but seriously, if you are, you should never do this.
  • zingzing Member Posts: 333
    edited August 2010
    4bet bluffing at micros is setting money on fire
  • kudossskudosss Member Posts: 8
    edited September 2010

    If your 100BB deep i think playing stakes of around 0.50/1 someone has a big hand after a 3 bet 50% of the time (more information would be available to u to decide) I like to call if you have big drawing hands like 56 suited or a small pocket pair(however a fold is obviously fine). The reason for this is not just that you want to hit a big hand you want a hand that doesnt look too co-ordinated. j10 suited is great but any board near it looks terrifying to your opponent,
     
    I much prefer a 2.2x 4 bet in alot of cases as often with AQ or below or 1010 or below people will fold or flat. You really shouldnt be calling a 3bet unless you think there going to find it hard to lay down a big pair otherwise theres not enough value in it.

    If you do the 2.2x 4 bet you are inflaming the pot and if they are making abit of a move like KQ suited and they miss quite often you will get it checked down as they are commiting such a huge proportion of there stack to just fire especially when they only called a flat. If they push you have to access whether you want to make a hero call with a small pair.

    raise to 4 re raise to 14 re rais to 31.

    62 pot with stacks of 69 remaining.

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