In Response to Re: What do I do on this flop?? : If he comes over the top pre then I know there's a very high chance he's got them although it's by no means a certainty. Having said that I really don't think I could find the fold button pre in that situation anyway so unless I have a 100% solid read on my oppo then no, I'm not folding to a 5 bet pre. Posted by silentbob
lol good, I dont think folding KK pre is ever going to work out for someone in the long run at 8NL, especially when only ~ 100bbs deep.
so u 4x raise UTG he mins clicks it back, you put a decent 4bet in and he flats in position. The range i would give the villain here is a big suited ace, and possbily big pairs from tens up (excluding aces and obviously kings) and he has gone set mining with the implied of stacking you.
Your hand is allmost face up.twice you have shown immense strength preflop, when the ace hits the flop i would probably check call dependant on my read of the weight of the bet,and then re evaluate on the turn.
I see this way more informational,than bet folding when the guy jams, and also any decent player will most likely understand C betting, and if you fire this flop your almost forced to make a crying call because of pot odds
Personally, i think when he 3bets your UTG raise preflop my 4 bet would have probably been bigger,firstly my opponent would be left shorter post flop, and 2nd whatever happens after your 4bet your committed and the decision is made easier.
so u 4x raise UTG he mins clicks it back, you put a decent 4bet in and he flats in position. The range i would give the villain here is a big suited ace, and possbily big pairs from tens up (excluding aces and obviously kings) and he has gone set mining with the implied of stacking you. Your hand is allmost face up.twice you have shown immense strength preflop, when the ace hits the flop i would probably check call dependant on my read of the weight of the bet,and then re evaluate on the turn. I see this way more informational,than bet folding when the guy jams, and also any decent player will most likely understand C betting, and if you fire this flop your almost forced to make a crying call because of pot odds Personally, i think when he 3bets your UTG raise preflop my 4 bet would have probably been bigger,firstly my opponent would be left shorter post flop, and 2nd whatever happens after your 4bet your committed and the decision is made easier. if he is deeper, then it plays different thoughts? Posted by mrrivaz05
I've known for a while now that bet sizing is quite a weak area of my game as I either tend to bet too big or not enough, although I do feel that I am gradually getting better with it (there's always something to learn in this game I think).
You say you would 4 bet bigger pre here so what would you make it? I thought it was big enough but maybe not?
I actually think your bet sizing was judged excellently,the only problem is with your opponents stack size its a hard shove to call on that board. I know in my home games i try to eliminate as many difficult decisions i can. You 4x raise UTG and he MIN clicks it back over to you. You 4 bet to around £2.50 and if he calls that puts his stack at around (approx) £5 and the pot £6. He called the £1.68 so why not £2.50? this should tell him hes playing for his entire stack should he wish to continue in the hand (well it would for me if i were the villan). If he does decide to call this heavier bet, your range for him is getting smaller.
Then were to the flop and it brings the ace. Im C betting here nearly all the time except with this type of action. Its a cooler either way. Looking at your stack you had a profitable session so maybe you didnt fancy the KK VS AK all in pre.
If this were me i would probably do as you did, but C bet the flop and call an all in.
Me and a m8 of mine chatted about this hand for ages, and given the stack of your opponent, the hand plays itself.
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Your hand is allmost face up.twice you have shown immense strength preflop, when the ace hits the flop i would probably check call dependant on my read of the weight of the bet,and then re evaluate on the turn.
I see this way more informational,than bet folding when the guy jams, and also any decent player will most likely understand C betting, and if you fire this flop your almost forced to make a crying call because of pot odds
Personally, i think when he 3bets your UTG raise preflop my 4 bet would have probably been bigger,firstly my opponent would be left shorter post flop, and 2nd whatever happens after your 4bet your committed and the decision is made easier.
if he is deeper, then it plays different
thoughts?
this hand is so tough....
I actually think your bet sizing was judged excellently,the only problem is with your opponents stack size its a hard shove to call on that board. I know in my home games i try to eliminate as many difficult decisions i can. You 4x raise UTG and he MIN clicks it back over to you. You 4 bet to around £2.50 and if he calls that puts his stack at around (approx) £5 and the pot £6. He called the £1.68 so why not £2.50? this should tell him hes playing for his entire stack should he wish to continue in the hand (well it would for me if i were the villan). If he does decide to call this heavier bet, your range for him is getting smaller.
Then were to the flop and it brings the ace. Im C betting here nearly all the time except with this type of action.
Its a cooler either way. Looking at your stack you had a profitable session so maybe you didnt fancy the KK VS AK all in pre.
If this were me i would probably do as you did, but C bet the flop and call an all in.
Me and a m8 of mine chatted about this hand for ages, and given the stack of your opponent, the hand plays itself.