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is the call bad or the push all in

rob12345rob12345 Member Posts: 341
edited September 2010 in The Poker Clinic
dav1964 Small blind  50.00 50.00 7262.50
Whizzewky Big blind  100.00 150.00 2330.00
  Your hole cards
  • 8
  • J
     
AVM84 Raise  400.00 550.00 3684.99
outr Call  400.00 950.00 3473.75
vicci2107 Fold     
rob12345 All-in  4076.25 5026.25 0.00
dav1964 Fold     
Whizzewky Fold     
AVM84 Fold     
outr All-in  3473.75 8500.00 0.00
rob12345 Unmatched bet  202.50 8297.50 202.50
outr Show
  • K
  • Q
   
rob12345 Show
  • 8
  • J
   
Flop
   
  • 2
  • 5
  • K
     
Turn
   
  • K
     
River
   
  • A
     
outr Win Three Kings 8297.50  8297.50
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  • rob12345rob12345 Member Posts: 341
    edited September 2010
    both player had been loose raiseing and don't need a big hand so i made a move i thick i had fold equate
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  • HartshorNHartshorN Member Posts: 616
    edited September 2010
    Suicide.

    Even if they had been loose, theres 2 more players to act after you, j8 is rubbish and if they have been loose it means j10, QJ, etc are likely hands there gonna push with leaving you dominated!
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  • waynecwaynec Member Posts: 1,023
    edited September 2010

    You had 40 x BBs out of position with J rag and shove all in to a raise and a call crazy m8.... fold!

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  • Buster69Buster69 Member Posts: 135
    edited September 2010
    lol the call and the push all in are both stupid play IMO just muck it and get on with the next hand theres no need to try these silly moves when you got so many BB's 
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  • lynx3ffectlynx3ffect Member Posts: 452
    edited September 2010
    i think if you were bb and they were btn/sb a shove wud be a nice play (altho i think a 3x raise has the same effect without risking your life)

    even if u say there are loose, have u actually seen his hands he raised utg or were they raising late position? a utg raise and utg+1 call suggests someone is pretty strong, one of them easily has a hand like 99/TT that will snap u off and ur in a world of pain....
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  • rob12345rob12345 Member Posts: 341
    edited September 2010
    fair play it was a new move i was trying in a torny i still thick the call wif kq is bad and should have work maybe i should look at my opponents and know if thay can lay down any hand when thay have raise or called 
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  • rob12345rob12345 Member Posts: 341
    edited September 2010
    In Response to Re: is the call bad or the push all in:
    You had 40 x BBs out of position with J rag and shove all in to a raise and a call crazy m8.... fold!
    Posted by waynecure
    postition dose not matter when u are all in
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  • rob12345rob12345 Member Posts: 341
    edited September 2010
    In Response to Re: is the call bad or the push all in:
    Suicide. Even if they had been loose, theres 2 more players to act after you, j8 is rubbish and if they have been loose it means j10, QJ, etc are likely hands there gonna push with leaving you dominated!
    Posted by HartshorN
    yeh but thay sould not be calling wif hands like that the only hands i fort thay would call wif is AA KK QQ JJ AK maybe AQ 10s and i fort the first raiser was not strong and the second player would re rasie wif all them hands so i get a fold most of the time.
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  • Buster69Buster69 Member Posts: 135
    edited September 2010
    In Response to Re: is the call bad or the push all in:
    In Response to Re: is the call bad or the push all in : yeh but thay sould not be calling wif hands like that the only hands i fort thay would call wif is AA KK QQ JJ AK maybe AQ 10s and i fort the first raiser was not strong and the second player would re rasie wif all them hands so i get a fold most of the time.
    Posted by rob12345
    Yes as it was they shouldn't have called but what i think players are suggesting is that in the long run this shove all in will get you in trouble as it did here
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  • rob12345rob12345 Member Posts: 341
    edited September 2010
    In Response to Re: is the call bad or the push all in:
    In Response to Re: is the call bad or the push all in : Yes as it was they shouldn't have called but what i think players are suggesting is that in the long run this shove all in will get you in trouble as it did here
    Posted by Buster69
    yeh just trying new things see wot happens
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  • waynecwaynec Member Posts: 1,023
    edited September 2010
    In Response to Re: is the call bad or the push all in:
    In Response to Re: is the call bad or the push all in : postition dose not matter when u are all in
    Posted by rob12345
    This is correct, I was referring to the situation in general, even thinking of play J8 to a raise and a call was mad but shoving was crazy as at least one of them could have a hand to call with, the villians call was not the best IMO.
    We have to admit Rob nit-picking at my terminology still does not justify your play, you post for peoples opinions, read them, then accept them or dismiss them as you see fit. 
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  • Batkin88Batkin88 Member Posts: 1,682
    edited September 2010
    posistion does matter if you shove all in
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited September 2010
    his call is worse than your push obv.
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  • CowgomooCowgomoo Member Posts: 749
    edited September 2010
    In Response to Re: is the call bad or the push all in:
    his call is worse than your push obv.
    Posted by beaneh
    Dohhhh would beg to differ.
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited September 2010
    In Response to Re: is the call bad or the push all in:
    In Response to Re: is the call bad or the push all in : Dohhhh would beg to differ.
    Posted by Cowgomoo

    that would make me even more sure of myself lol
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  • zingzing Member Posts: 333
    edited September 2010
    i like it if the buy-in is £12+ and maybe a K or A.
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  • rob12345rob12345 Member Posts: 341
    edited September 2010
    In Response to Re: is the call bad or the push all in:
    i like it if the buy-in is £12+ and maybe a K or A.
    Posted by zing
    3 pound buy in
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