Unreal whats the odds anyone?

ginge999

hi guys this is one of my first posts on here, i actually cant believe whats happend. i was cruising in the open managed to get a good stack together, as the tournys moving im finding myself losing chips from blinds as im playing good solid poker. 69 players left, i have around 24 BB's blinds are at 200/400. i pick up QQ in early position i raise to 1600 the chip leader at the table has around 6k more than me he calls from the BB, flop comes down 458 he bets 2,500 at me i shove for my remaining 9k of chips he snap calls me with 87 the turn comes down an 8 then the river comes down another 8 lol i cant believe it such a sick beat and he hits the 2 remaining 8's what are the actual odd's of him doing this hitting running 8's and the remaining case 8?

Draig

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MereNovice

In Response to Unreal whats the odds anyone?:

hi guys this is one of my first posts on here, i actually cant believe whats happend. i was cruising in the open managed to get a good stack together, as the tournys moving im finding myself losing chips from blinds as im playing good solid poker. 69 players left, i have around 24 BB's blinds are at 200/400. i pick up QQ in early position i raise to 1600 the chip leader at the table has around 6k more than me he calls from the BB, flop comes down 458 he bets 2,500 at me i shove for my remaining 9k of chips he snap calls me with 87 the turn comes down an 8 then the river comes down another 8 lol i cant believe it such a sick beat and he hits the 2 remaining 8's what are the actual odd's of him doing this hitting running 8's and the remaining case 8?
Posted by ginge999

The odds are 989 to 1 for him to make quads after the flop.

FlashFlush

yes 0.1% 1000/1 ...

scotty77

50/50

he either makes quads or he doesn't

ginge999

Thanks flash such a sick beat

Deadluck

River was irrelevant anyway, he beat you on the turn and you were drawing to 2 outs by the river. On the flop he was actually drawing to 10 outs (disregarding FD) and so he will still win a fairly large % of the time, not 1000:1 anyway! So it's not that sick of a beat imo. OF course it's still a -EV call by him, but people in the speed tourneys such as the open shove with AK/AQ for the mere fold equity on those kind of boards as well so I don't know.

If you flopped a set and he made running quads then that would be rather sick.

MereNovice

In Response to Re: Unreal whats the odds anyone?:

River was irrelevant anyway, he beat you on the turn and you were drawing to 2 outs by the river. On the flop he was actually drawing to 10 outs (disregarding FD) and so he will still win a fairly large % of the time, not 1000:1 anyway! So it's not that sick of a beat imo. OF course it's still a -EV call by him, but people in the speed tourneys such as the open shove with AK/AQ for the mere fold equity on those kind of boards as well so I don't know. If you flopped a set and he made running quads then that would be rather sick.
Posted by Deadluck

Actually, it's 9 outs (disregarding FD).

See https://www.skypoker.com/secure/poker/sky_lobby?action=show_static&page=poker_community_forums&plckForumPage=ForumDiscussion&plckDiscussionId=Cat%3a57795ac2-1793-4377-b4cf-e124b0f555f4Forum%3adf77f82c-151f-4bea-aae1-fb423dcae1faDiscussion%3a49aad06a-8fbe-4479-a06e-9fee5dcc71b8&plckShowLatestPost=1

for a full discussion of the maths of the situtation.

(*Warning, only those with a strong interest in maths should follow that link*).

Deadluck

Yes you're right sorry. 887776666. My point remains, its not that much of a bad beat, pretty standard play in these fast structures.

MereNovice

Absolutely but it feels worse when the guy makes r/r quads.