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IS 2P/4P THE WAY FORWARD?????

MP33MP33 Member Posts: 6,305
edited September 2010 in The Poker Clinic
IVE NEVER PLAYED AT THIS LEVEL UNTIL TONIGHT

I SPOTTED A CPL OF POTS OVER £10 AND DECIDED TO TAKE A LOOK - WOULD PPL WHO  PLAY  THIS LEVEL SAY THAT ITS MUCH EASIER THAN 4P/8P OR 5P/10P?


Hand History #288931683 (04:04 11/09/2010)
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
XXXXSmall blind  £0.02 £0.02 £5.35
XXXX Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £15.22
MP33 Big blind  £0.04 £0.10 £3.96
  Your hole cards
  • Q
  • Q
     
xxxx Fold     
MP33 Raise  £0.12 £0.22 £3.84
XXXXFold     
XXXX Call  £0.16 £0.38 £21.55
XXXXCall  £0.14 £0.52 £5.21
XXXX Call  £0.12 £0.64 £15.10
Flop
   
  • 9
  • J
  • Q
     
xxxx Check     
xxxx Bet  £0.32 £0.96 £14.78
MP33 Call  £0.32 £1.28 £3.52
Villain Raise  £1.92 £3.20 £19.63
xxxxx Fold     
JGIBBRFC Fold     
MP33 All-in  £3.52 £6.72 £0.00
villain Call  £1.92 £8.64 £17.71
MP33 Show
  • Q
  • Q
   
Villain Show
  • 2
  • J
   
Turn
   
  • 7
     
River
   
  • 10
     
MP33 Win Three Queens £8.00  £8.00
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  • MP33MP33 Member Posts: 6,305
    edited September 2010
    This was a few mins later:

    Hand History #288932313 (04:20 11/09/2010)

    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    XXXX Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £3.69
    VillainBig blind  £0.04 £0.06 £12.02
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • 9
    		     
    Villain Call  £0.04 £0.10 £2.68
    XXXX Fold     
    XXXX Fold     
    MP33 Call  £0.04 £0.14 £9.30
    XXXX Call  £0.02 £0.16 £3.67
    Villain Raise  £0.16 £0.32 £11.86
    Villain Call  £0.16 £0.48 £2.52
    MP33 Raise  £0.64 £1.12 £8.66
    XXXX Fold     
    villain Call  £0.48 £1.60 £11.38
    VillainCall  £0.48 £2.08 £2.04
    Flop
       
    • 7
    • 8
    • 9
    		     
    Villain All-in  £11.38 £13.46 £0.00
    xxxxFold     
    MP33 All-in  £8.66 £22.12 £0.00
    Villain Unmatched bet  £2.72 £19.40 £2.72
    Villain Show
    • 7
    • 5
    		   
    MP33 Show
    • A
    • 9
    		   
    Turn
       
    • 4
    		     
    River
       
    • Q
    		     
    MP33 Win Pair of 9s £18.00  £18.00
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited September 2010
    MP33, i agree, NL4 is easier than the slightly higher stakes, particularly if the correct game is applied.
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  • donkeyplopdonkeyplop Member Posts: 3,795
    edited September 2010
    id  say the fact it was 4:20am!!! may of made it easier to win at nl4!!!!

    first hand well you flopped a set! easy money.....

    second hand who knows lol. maybe he shoved thinking most of the time you would fold??

    but yeah id say nl4 and nl8 are the same nl10 gets better imo..........
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  • waynecwaynec Member Posts: 1,023
    edited September 2010
    I play 4 - 30nl depending on which tables have free seats with certain players on them, IMO the lower the limit the looser the play. I reckon AA & KK have a better chance of holding up at 20nl than 4nl because of this, to balance it out, you need to multi table more at the lower end.

    IMO!
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited September 2010
    In Response to Re: IS 2P/4P THE WAY FORWARD?????:
    I play 4 - 30nl depending on which tables have free seats with certain players on them, IMO the lower the limit the looser the play. I reckon AA & KK have a better chance of holding up at 20nl than 4nl because of this, to balance it out, you need to multi table more at the lower end. IMO!
    Posted by waynecure
    +1
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  • MP33MP33 Member Posts: 6,305
    edited September 2010
    In Response to Re: IS 2P/4P THE WAY FORWARD?????:
    I play 4 - 30nl depending on which tables have free seats with certain players on them, IMO the lower the limit the looser the play. I reckon AA & KK have a better chance of holding up at 20nl than 4nl because of this, to balance it out, you need to multi table more at the lower end. IMO!
    Posted by waynecure
    I agree. Ive been playing a while now but still havent mastered multi tabling. any more than 2 tables and i get a nose bleed.  just can,t seem to focus and can,t read ppl as well
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  • OMahonyOOMahonyO Member Posts: 1,883
    edited September 2010
    In Response to Re: IS 2P/4P THE WAY FORWARD?????:
    In Response to Re: IS 2P/4P THE WAY FORWARD????? : I agree. Ive been playing a while now but still havent mastered multi tabling. any more than 2 tables and i get a nose bleed.  just can,t seem to focus and can,t read ppl as well
    Posted by MP33

    The good thing about 4nl is you dont need to read people at all.  Load up as many tables as you can and play your cards on their strength
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  • RogueCellRogueCell Member Posts: 533
    edited September 2010

    In some ways easier (your good hands get paid off by the station with bottom pair) but you have to balance that against the frequency/cost/annoyance of being outdrawn by said station.

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  • tapewormtapeworm Member Posts: 432
    edited September 2010
    In Response to Re: IS 2P/4P THE WAY FORWARD?????:
    In some ways easier (your good hands get paid off by the station with bottom pair) but you have to balance that against the frequency/cost/annoyance of being outdrawn by said station.
    Posted by RogueCell
    this is very true, however if you play right and pot size correctly you should still make an easy profit. i played 4p/8p a couple of days ago and there was deffo more agression than 2p/4p........ although still some crazy all in ins etc
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  • RogueCellRogueCell Member Posts: 533
    edited September 2010
    There is no correct pot size against nl4 stations - they'll call with ANYTHING.  Obviously odds dictate that most of the time your best hand holds up.  Psychology dictates that those times 52off beat your pocket As leave a greater imprint.
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  • tapewormtapeworm Member Posts: 432
    edited September 2010
    In Response to Re: IS 2P/4P THE WAY FORWARD?????:
    There is no correct pot size against nl4 stations - they'll call with ANYTHING.  Obviously odds dictate that most of the time your best hand holds up.  Psychology dictates that those times 52off beat your pocket As leave a greater imprint.
    Posted by RogueCell
    Im sorry I disagree. If you give them bad odds to chase their draws then in the long run you will be on top. Luck varys, maths does not. Doesnt matter if its at 2p/ 4p  or £1/£2 that remains true......of course at higher levels there is more to it than just odds.....i would imagine - lol
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  • RogueCellRogueCell Member Posts: 533
    edited September 2010
    You can be as sorry as you like - most players at nl4 do not even have the most basic grasp of pot odds - they'd rather just focus on the miracle card.
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  • tapewormtapeworm Member Posts: 432
    edited September 2010
    of course - and i agree with you on that, but that makes it easier to win against them. im not saying you wont get bad beats, you will, more so than higher levels because of what you state above.

    Just stating that if you give them bad odds (weather they grasp it or not doesnt matter one Iota - in fact i am better off when they dont so I can chase my own draws cheaply) and you call when you have the right odds, then you will....in the end be on top at this level - no doubt about it.

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  • RogueCellRogueCell Member Posts: 533
    edited September 2010
    Sure - I did pretty well.  Put in £20 and withdrew £100.  My br was much higher but went on the most spectacular losing streak combined with callers from **** - cynic?  Moi??  Mais Oui.
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited September 2010
    In Response to Re: IS 2P/4P THE WAY FORWARD?????:
    Sure - I did pretty well.  Put in £20 and withdrew £100.  My br was much higher but went on the most spectacular losing streak combined with callers from **** - cynic?  Moi??  Mais Oui.
    Posted by RogueCell
    Hense why its best to multi table NL4, see my strategy guide, its in the clinic, somewhere.
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  • RogueCellRogueCell Member Posts: 533
    edited September 2010
    Did that.  Too fidgety to play anything less than 4 at a time.
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  • waynecwaynec Member Posts: 1,023
    edited September 2010
    In Response to Re: IS 2P/4P THE WAY FORWARD?????:
    In Response to Re: IS 2P/4P THE WAY FORWARD????? : Hense why its best to multi table NL4, see my strategy guide, its in the clinic, somewhere.
    Posted by The_Don90
    100% correct as we agreed at the begining of this thread
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