too tight a fold here??

donkeyplop

ok the villain is a pretty solid reg who usually plays higher.

what would you guys of done after my flop c bet was re raised?

surely that turn bet tells me im behind?????? or does it????

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
iamyiddo12	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£1.22
xxx	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£4.31
	Your hole cards	Q Q
stuth	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£2.46
HOUNDOG	Fold
donkeyplop	Raise		£0.20	£0.30	£8.24
tmulh	Fold
iamyiddo12	Fold
xxx	Call		£0.16	£0.46	£4.15
stuth	Fold
Flop
		7 3 K
xxx	Check
donkeyplop	Bet		£0.35	£0.81	£7.89
xxx	Raise		£0.93	£1.74	£3.22
donkeyplop	Call		£0.58	£2.32	£7.31
Turn
		2
xxx	Bet		£1.74	£4.06	£1.48
donkeyplop	Fold
xxx	Muck
xxx	Win		£2.15		£3.63
xxx	Return		£1.74	£0.17	£5.37

beaneh

if you call flop i'm calling turn.

is P(Kx) > P(gutshots/bluffs)

if so fold flop.

Batkin88

i would re raise his flop raise and see what he does, it may slow him down if he has the king but also get rid of him if he has 7 or just air. Also he may question his kicker if he has king with this re raise. The way u played i would call turn as ur getting nice odds from ur call on the flop.
High chance he has pocket j's 10's 9's or 8's here

LOL_RAISE

batkin we dont want him to fold his air or his worse hands
plus almsot no one at these stakes will raise 2nd pair on a flop they just check call down.
i cant think of a 'pretty solid reg' who would ever raise 88-JJ on this flop it just doesnt make any logical sense



at nl100+ vs thinking players you can call this down fine as they are only repping 77,33. we also have blockers to KQ which is nice, however at these stakes i wouldnt be too surprised to see him show up with K7s and also it means he will likely over value TPGK and be willing to play for stacks on the flop

rob12345

yeah i fold it this spot he has shows that he has Strong hand by re raiseing u on the flop and then betting big on the turn i just fold u can find better spots to put your money in and try and be the aggressive but i dont offen play cash at this low levels

Batkin88

In Response to Re: too tight a fold here??:

batkin we dont want him to fold his air or his worse hands plus almsot no one at these stakes will raise 2nd pair on a flop they just check call down. i cant think of a 'pretty solid reg' who would ever raise 88-JJ on this flop it just doesnt make any logical sense at nl100+ vs thinking players you can call this down fine as they are only repping 77,33. we also have blockers to KQ which is nice, however at these stakes i wouldnt be too surprised to see him show up with K7s and also it means he will likely over value TPGK and be willing to play for stacks on the flop
Posted by LOL_RAISE

In this situation i would want to end the hand, it doesn;t matter if there a good reg it doesn't mean they have a hand. Play by your notes not on reputation. Finish the hand and move on raise flop and get answers you call there are no answers and your still left wondering what they have.

donkeyplop

my notes tell me they bet strong on there good/made hands.

looking back im pretty sure they had a hand like ace king.

Batkin88

In Response to Re: too tight a fold here??:

my notes tell me they bet strong on there good/made hands. looking back im pretty sure they had a hand like ace king.
Posted by donkeyplop

Then its a good fold and well done for folding such a good hand

LOL_RAISE

nvm, you dont like money, i give up

rob12345

In Response to Re: too tight a fold here??:

i would re raise his flop raise and see what he does, it may slow him down if he has the king but also get rid of him if he has 7 or just air. Also he may question his kicker if he has king with this re raise. The way u played i would call turn as ur getting nice odds from ur call on the flop. High chance he has pocket j's 10's 9's or 8's here
Posted by Batkin88

jj 10s 9s dont re raise the flop and bet the turn