2 monster hands OMAHA

BURNShurtz

this is the situation, the player in question has been stacking of players left right and centre. so i sit there and wait for a good hand knowing that if i hit he will probably pay me off and this is what happened

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
readem	Small blind		£0.10	£0.10	£6.14
xxxxxx	Big blind		£0.20	£0.30	£56.66
	Your hole cards	8 10 A A
BURNShurtz	Call		£0.20	£0.50	£28.73
classasa	Call		£0.20	£0.70	£13.34
Employee	Call		£0.20	£0.90	£26.00
THEOCALOT	Fold
readem	Fold
xxxxxx	Check
Flop
		J K J
xxxxxx	Check
BURNShurtz	Check
classasa	Check
Employee	Check
Turn
		A
xxxxxx	Check
BURNShurtz	Check
classasa	Check
Employee	Check
River
		5
xxxxxx	Bet		£0.90	£1.80	£55.76
BURNShurtz	Raise		£3.60	£5.40	£25.13
classasa	Fold
Employee	Fold
xxxxxx	Raise		£10.80	£16.20	£44.96
BURNShurtz	All-in		£25.13	£41.33	£0.00
xxxxxx	Raise		£34.06	£75.39	£10.90
xxxxxx	Unmatched bet		£17.03	£58.36	£27.93
xxxxxx	Show	J J 2 Q
BURNShurtz	Show	8 10 A A
xxxxxx	Win	Four Jacks	£57.46		£85.39

i did think that he may of had it when he re-raise but this was my last hand for the night.
what do you think, should i have layed it down or was it an easy all-in as there is only the one hand that can beat you?

LOL_RAISE

easy stack off.  bet the turn

Talon

  This has to rate as just about the worst playing down the streets ever by 2 players in a hand of omaha.

yb

In Response to Re: 2 monster hands OMAHA:

  This has to rate as just about the worst playing down the streets ever by 2 players in a hand of omaha.
Posted by Talon

Your posts always come across as really arrogant imo, he posted the hand to learn obv. Theres no need to be such a douche, especially when most of the players on this site are still beginners when it comes to omaha.

BURNShurtz

In Response to Re: 2 monster hands OMAHA:

  This has to rate as just about the worst playing down the streets ever by 2 players in a hand of omaha.
Posted by Talon

no point discussing a hand with you is there??,

BURNShurtz

In Response to Re: 2 monster hands OMAHA:

In Response to Re: 2 monster hands OMAHA : Your posts always come across as really arrogant imo, he posted the hand to learn obv. Theres no need to be such a douche, especially when most of the players on this site are still beginners when it comes to omaha.
Posted by yb

thank you

BURNShurtz

In Response to Re: 2 monster hands OMAHA:

easy stack off.  bet the turn
Posted by LOL_RAISE

hi there, the reason i didnt bet turn was some of the players had been quite aggresive so was hoping for the bets to come from some one else, also was pretty sure the player in question would 100% bet river. as it turned out i was dead before that but i dont think betting the turn would of helped much in this situation.  

SHANXTA

In Response to Re: 2 monster hands OMAHA:

  This has to rate as just about the worst playing down the streets ever by 2 players in a hand of omaha.
Posted by Talon

pretty arrogant from sum1 who can't beat 2/4p omaha!

LOL_RAISE

burnshurtz, you said you were 100% sure he would bet the river, how were you certain of this as he has checked twice now in a 4way pot i would be expecting the same on the river.

id bet the turn because simply any Jx is going to call two streets and so is QTxx

BURNShurtz

In Response to Re: 2 monster hands OMAHA:

burnshurtz, you said you were 100% sure he would bet the river, how were you certain of this as he has checked twice now in a 4way pot i would be expecting the same on the river. id bet the turn because simply any Jx is going to call two streets and so is QTxx
Posted by LOL_RAISE

your right in what say,  the only answer i have is after watching the player over his last 15+ hands is that if he seen any weakness he would bet. btw i am taking in everything you say, and its much appreciated

Ploppy33

In Response to Re: 2 monster hands OMAHA:

  This has to rate as just about the worst playing down the streets ever by 2 players in a hand of omaha.
Posted by Talon

In Talon's defense he seems to know whats what re omaha - his post recently about how to play omaha was very informative. Thanks a lot m8 must of taken ages.

However maybe a little more constructive critism may have been in order as I think the majority r new to Omaha. (I dont even want to think about hi/lo - Id need 10 mins to work out what i got!)

For example what you would of done?

Talon

  To sum up this hand simply after that turn card hits you are going to stack off everytime and i would find it very difficult to lay that hand down under virtually any circumstance.

  My comment about the play down the streets was due to his checking both flop and turn and you checking the turn.Slow playing hands is never a great idea because of the fact that all it achieves is to give absolute odds to any draw going. Also this is a pot limit game so the ability to overraise or go allin out of nowhere is not available.So for this reason when you hit big either with a made hand or a big draw you need to build the pot up to make it more substantial for the winning and to chase off people drawing to better hands.In this hand there was only the original 90p in the pot when the river hit which is way too low considering the hands you both had.

  So my only problem with the way this hand was played out was not the fact that you ended up all-in but just the the lateness of you ending up all-in.As i said there is virtually no way you can put anyone on pocket jacks and you just have to accept the fact that he had a better hand, but he should have been more aggressive on the turn at least and so should you have.

BURNShurtz

In Response to Re: 2 monster hands OMAHA:

  To sum up this hand simply after that turn card hits you are going to stack off everytime and i would find it very difficult to lay that hand down under virtually any circumstance.   My comment about the play down the streets was due to his checking both flop and turn and you checking the turn.Slow playing hands is never a great idea because of the fact that all it achieves is to give absolute odds to any draw going. Also this is a pot limit game so the ability to overraise or go allin out of nowhere is not available.So for this reason when you hit big either with a made hand or a big draw you need to build the pot up to make it more substantial for the winning and to chase off people drawing to better hands.In this hand there was only the original 90p in the pot when the river hit which is way too low considering the hands you both had.   So my only problem with the way this hand was played out was not the fact that you ended up all-in but just the the lateness of you ending up all-in.As i said there is virtually no way you can put anyone on pocket jacks and you just have to accept the fact that he had a better hand, but he should have been more aggressive on the turn at least and so should you have.
Posted by Talon

thats more like it, good advise thanks