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help me learn from this please

BURNShurtzBURNShurtz Member Posts: 1,005
edited September 2010 in The Poker Clinic
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
BURNShurtz Small blind  20.00 20.00 2705.00
adrian2223 Big blind  40.00 60.00 2747.50
  Your hole cards
  • 9
  • A
     
terry1961 Fold     
gurdyboy Fold     
COBRA207 Fold     
BMG1 Call  40.00 100.00 4427.50
BURNShurtz Call  20.00 120.00 2685.00
adrian2223 Check     
Flop
   
  • 4
  • K
  • 9
     
BURNShurtz Bet  40.00 160.00 2645.00
adrian2223 Call  40.00 200.00 2707.50
BMG1 Call  40.00 240.00 4387.50
Turn
   
  • A
     
BURNShurtz Bet  240.00 480.00 2405.00
adrian2223 Call  240.00 720.00 2467.50
BMG1 Call  240.00 960.00 4147.50
River
   
  • J
     
BURNShurtz Bet  960.00 1920.00 1445.00
adrian2223 Raise  1920.00 3840.00 547.50
BMG1 All-in  4147.50 7987.50 0.00
BURNShurtz All-in  1445.00 9432.50 0.00
adrian2223 All-in  547.50 9980.00 0.00
BMG1 Unmatched bet  1680.00 8300.00 1680.00
BURNShurtz Show
  • 9
  • A
   
adrian2223 Show
  • K
  • J
   
BMG1 Show
  • 10
  • Q
   
BMG1 Win Straight to the Ace 8300.00  9980.00
i want to get better so if you have nothing helpfull to say please don't say anything at all......
i think i went wrong on a few parts of this hand, maybe i should not of been in it in the first place, any advise on flop, turn, river play would help me a great deal. thanks
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  • IpsofatsoIpsofatso Member Posts: 12
    edited September 2010
    In Response to help me learn from this please:
    Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance BURNShurtz Small blind   20.00 20.00 2705.00 adrian2223 Big blind   40.00 60.00 2747.50   Your hole cards 9 A       terry1961 Fold         gurdyboy Fold         COBRA207 Fold         BMG1 Call   40.00 100.00 4427.50 BURNShurtz Call   20.00 120.00 2685.00 adrian2223 Check         Flop     4 K 9       BURNShurtz Bet   40.00 160.00 2645.00 adrian2223 Call   40.00 200.00 2707.50 BMG1 Call   40.00 240.00 4387.50 Turn     A       BURNShurtz Bet   240.00 480.00 2405.00 adrian2223 Call   240.00 720.00 2467.50 BMG1 Call   240.00 960.00 4147.50 River     J       BURNShurtz Bet   960.00 1920.00 1445.00 adrian2223 Raise   1920.00 3840.00 547.50 BMG1 All-in   4147.50 7987.50 0.00 BURNShurtz All-in   1445.00 9432.50 0.00 adrian2223 All-in   547.50 9980.00 0.00 BMG1 Unmatched bet   1680.00 8300.00 1680.00 BURNShurtz Show 9 A       adrian2223 Show K J       BMG1 Show 10 Q       BMG1 Win Straight to the Ace 8300.00   9980.00 i want to get better so if you have nothing helpfull to say please don't say anything at all...... i think i went wrong on a few parts of this hand, maybe i should not of been in it in the first place, any advise on flop, turn, river play would help me a great deal. thanks
    Posted by BURNShurtz
    Fine to call pre.
    Wrong to bet out on flop. Check to see what happens.
    Tturn bet fine.
    River bet Wrong Wrong Wrong.

    Best advise I ever got fold fold fold Small blind all the time apart from monsters
    Ipso
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  • BURNShurtzBURNShurtz Member Posts: 1,005
    edited September 2010
    In Response to Re: help me learn from this please:
    In Response to help me learn from this please : Fine to call pre. Wrong to bet out on flop. Check to see what happens. Tturn bet fine. River bet Wrong Wrong Wrong. Best advise I ever got fold fold fold Small blind all the time apart from monsters Ipso
    Posted by Ipsofatso
    thanks for the advise. just 1 question tho, what do you think i should of done on the river?? check-fold or check-call a small to pot size bet?
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  • IpsofatsoIpsofatso Member Posts: 12
    edited September 2010
    Check fold. Against 2 players at least one has you beat.
    It's hard to fold sometimes but no good putting good money after bad.
    Folding to save money is almost as rewarding as winning

    Ipso
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  • BURNShurtzBURNShurtz Member Posts: 1,005
    edited September 2010
    In Response to Re: help me learn from this please:
    Check fold. Against 2 players at least one has you beat. It's hard to fold sometimes but no good putting good money after bad. Folding to save money is almost as rewarding as winning Ipso
    Posted by Ipsofatso
    thanks again, taken aboad.
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  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited September 2010
    either fold or raise pre IMO depending how bad the button is
    bet flop bigger if you are going to bet it. i dont see anything too wrong with this btw.
    turn bet is fine
    i would bet/fold the river. lots of value from worse hands (they almost never have a better 2pair because they didnt reaise preflop) and fold to the raises quite easily.
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  • phil12ukphil12uk Member Posts: 2,856
    edited September 2010
    The call pre is OK as it's so tempting with A in hand. You just have to remember that ur out of position and even if the Ace flops, ur never sure where u are in the hand.

    I personally would bet 80 - 100 on that flop as 40 is gonna get called by a massive range of hands - any pair of any type, draws etc.

    I like ur pot bet on the turn as it is not giving the draws the price to stay in.

    River is yuk for ur hand and I would prob either bet/fold or even check and reevaluate after the action from the other 2 players behind u.  You could well be against busted draws who aren't gonna call another bet but by checking u are giving them a chance to try and bluff for the pot which u can then call. 

    As played, after ur bet u were raised and reraised. That's the time u should be folding as ur 2 pair is not gonna be good there IMO.


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  • Batkin88Batkin88 Member Posts: 1,682
    edited September 2010
    raise pre 3 or 4x pre as out of posistion, then bet flop bigger, about 120 to 180. Then check turn and bet fold river if there is still two players in.
    U will find betting the flop bigger would bring it down to HU hand very often.
    Bet big get answers thats what i say ul tho
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  • BURNShurtzBURNShurtz Member Posts: 1,005
    edited September 2010
    lots of good advise coming in, thanks to you all.
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