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just shoot me

harding10harding10 Member Posts: 849
edited September 2010 in The Poker Clinic
harding10 Small blind  40.00 40.00 4312.50
WIZARDBOY Big blind  80.00 120.00 7230.00
  Your hole cards
  • K
  • 10
     
MK1979 Fold     
logan51515 Fold     
scrumdown Fold     
villain Raise  160.00 280.00 4727.50
harding10 Call  120.00 400.00 4192.50
WIZARDBOY Call  80.00 480.00 7150.00
Flop
   
  • 5
  • Q
  • J
     
harding10 Check     
WIZARDBOY Check     
villainBet  240.00 720.00 4487.50
harding10 Call  240.00 960.00 3952.50
WIZARDBOY Fold     
Turn
   
  • Q
     
harding10 Bet  720.00 1680.00 3232.50
villain Call  720.00 2400.00 3767.50
River
   
  • 7
     
harding10 Check     
villain Bet  1200.00 3600.00 2567.50
harding10 Fold     
villain Muck     
      
      
Fold pre is probably going to be a common theme, but what should I have done with the up & down straight on the flop??

Comments

  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited September 2010
    dont think this is too bad tbh, not alot to call and bb invested with suited k10 isnt bad. not going to re-raise and only commit if you hit straight/flush/2 pair, flop you have got open ended & back door flush i'd probably donk bet here 360(3/4 pot) 1 to build pot if you hit, also to represent you have hit or could be on flush draw(spades). if 3-4 bet after this i would be folding, if call opponent likely to be ahead (could have a queen or jack) turn is not a good card would aim to check it down here, if they bet if cheap 1/4 pot or less then i would call and re-assess on river

    way you played is fine also other then the call on the turn, even if he is bluffing in this spot you need to hit would rather be betting or calling for better odds etc

    i think im waffling now so will leave it at that sorry if i have confused anybody lol
  • DeucesLiveDeucesLive Member Posts: 839
    edited September 2010
    Tough spot. For me the key decision has to be made on the flop- the Q and J does connect with a raisers range, and he's c-bet every street, so you have to think he likes his hand. There is a possibility he has a lower pair though.

    For me, I'd raise his flop bet substantially, to around 700/800 and see what he does. If he then shoves, you have a decision to make- gamble with your straight draw (because he's almost definitely hit quite big) or accept the loss. But by calling, you've learnt nothing about the strength of his hand, and left him open to bet another street, and you've now got very little value in the hand.

    If you raise the flop and he calls, you've got an answer- he doesn't like his hand massively- he might have second pair, an underpair or top pair weak kicker. If you then shove that turn, unless he has got the Q he is probably folding, and if he does call- you've still got the straight and flush draws live.

    The danger of calling on draws is when they don't hit, you're getting more and more expensive. He was betting just about strong enough on each street to not give you the odds of calling, so it's raise or fold in each street for me- I don't think the preflop call is bad at all though, decent enough hand to look at.
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