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Do these players want to learn anything?
mmmchips
Member Posts: 65
This is my first and last post on the Sky Forum, I don't know why as I know what to expect by now.
I was playing a £5 BH, had about 1000 chips with the blinds at 15/30.
I have KK in the BB with three limpers.
I put in a standard 4xBB + 1 for every limp raise and get two callers.
The board is J 10 4, rainbow.
I shove and get called by A 2 off.
No draw and one overcard. WHY?
Is it because it's a £5 BH or because he doesn't have a clue.
I think it's both, but he will go away thinking he is so clever even if in future he doesn't hit his miracle card, hence learning nothing,
Ever!
Of course for all you Sky Forum regulars, I want to get called by such inept players with such junk, don't I?
Comments
How many chips did he have?
To be polite, I would say that he's a donk that'll be living in a cardboard box before the year is out.
Does my head in.
However, it's not a question of people not "wanting to learn anything". People play poker for all sorts of different reasons. Some get a thrill from sheer gambling or making wild bluffs - others like to take a more reasoned approach. It would be a dull game if we all played the same way.
Recently I put a person all-in pre-flop with 88 v 33 and he hit his 3.
I had repeatedly re-raised his minimum pre-flop raises.
His comment was "some people never learn".
Losing a hand like this hurts a little - it wouldn't be normal if it didn't.
Losing several hands like this in a row definitely causes pain.
True poker players (and I sense that you are one) rise above it and take comfort in the fact that they know that they are winning players over all. Our true love of the game can be dented at times but it generally recovers and is all the sweeter for it (so long as we play within our bankroll).
Who won the hand and who won the bounty please? QED
LOL
thats the nature of bh i'm afraid,i dont like them so much so if i get fairly deep i think i have had a good night...
good luck dave
I am SO SO SO sick of getting stung by donks.
Playing the other day, deep into an mtt.
I have pocket aces and a 67k stack, blinds 2k/4k.
Donk has 71k stack and raises to 30k- w tf?
I move all in obv.
Mr donk leaves himself no other choice than to call, so he does with 66 and gets a set.
Great.
Number two, again deep into a mtt.
Mr donk has A2 in SB, raises to 3xBB.
I re-raise all in with AK suited. I expect a fold.
Mr donk calls with A2 and gets his two on the flop.
I swear, everytime in the last 10 I have played its been a bust out to bad play.
i think this is another example of someone making a 'stupid call'. Stupid calls, as I like to call them, are very annoying indeed, but as poker players we just have to accept it i think.
I also receive abuse from making calculated calls. Only yesterday i was called a fish when i was bb with k 10 and it had been flatted to me by the SB. The flop came j q 3 suited. At this point i felt my hand strong enough with my up/down straight draw, flush draw and over to represent strength so bet. He called, the turn came another queen. Not wishing now to show any weakness, i went all in as the pot size by now was more than i could afford to put down and again got a caller. Now i Knew i was behind and the poker gods were the only way to save me. My opponent turned over 9 3 off! Now the really cruel twist was the river missed all my outs but hit a jack making a double paired board conterfeiting his 3's. Yes, probably the cruellest way to lose a hand but none the less, looking back i was preflop fave. Even tho he hit his 3 on the flop the outs i had made me post flop fave as well. But then being called a joke was unreal. I find this behaviour more prominent during evenings where loose calls seem to be more frequent.
Yes I feel many people just load up £20 quid or so a night and will play till its gone, with no regard to basic knowledge on position, hole card strength and betting. The number of DYM's i've played where they will call down to the river with ace high is unbelievable. The only true way to combat it is to limit your bet sizes til you know you have a monster, then take them out quietly.
I know it wont take the sting out but long term stronger play will ultimately have its rewards. Stick to low level DYM for a while or cash as multi table format can produce the harshest of beats too often.
Yes we want the weakest players around so we can long term capitalise from it but players that are TOO weak can be detrimental to your game. Take a DYM with 5 complete fools and yourself playing. When i find a table like that, i know it will be incredibly difficult to cash because you struggle to get anyone to fold, EVER. Ultimately 1 of them will hit his lucky 4 outer and take you out. I much prefer a balance of stronger and weaker players as you can avoid confrontations with the stronger ones but pick on the weaker players and yes sometimes the fishes catch one of the stronger players making your road to the prize money that touch easier too.
Also stronger more complex plays have a chance of working against someone who does have a basic strategy and knowledge but they will never work against calling stations. So I feel if the fishes did pick up their game a bit, the stronger players R.O.I. would ultimately go up.