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Queeeeennnnnnnzzzz

BradnockBradnock Member Posts: 88
edited September 2010 in The Poker Clinic
$2/$4 - No Limit Hold'em Seat 1: Manco_99 ($697.90)Seat 2: Buurr ($795.10)Seat 3: Fold2MePlease ($400)Seat 4: rbt71 ($792.40)Seat 5: berrmoney ($487.90)Seat 6: debroix ($937.60)Seat 7: waituck ($1,325.05)Seat 8: Bradnock ($411.30)Seat 9: mr_hedgehog ($400)Manco_99 posts the small blind of $2Buurr posts the big blind of $4The button is in seat #9*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Bradnock [Qs Qc]Fold2MePlease foldsrbt71 foldsberrmoney foldsdebroix foldswaituck raises to $12Bradnock raises to $36mr_hedgehog foldsManco_99 foldsBuurr foldswaituck raises to $84Bradnock calls $48*** FLOP *** [6d Th 7h]waituck bets $90Bradnock has 15 seconds left to act

Not 100% how well the above hand info transfers onto SKY but hopefully it decipherable.

I have cut off @ decision time, no way was i flatting here...

Waituck/Villan has the comfort of 3 BI's infornt of him, he has been very agg but had 'had it' each time he has gone to showdown.

Decision time...
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited September 2010
    Had you see him 4 bet before?


    Had you been 3 betting much?


    What other hands had you seen him showdown and how?


    6 max this is an easy stack off, FR against some opponents it's a stack off and against others its a sigh why did I 3 bet fold. 

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  • BradnockBradnock Member Posts: 88
    edited September 2010
    Only seen him 4 bet once, that was him at around $400 he had Aces and all action was pre flop.

    3 betting a lot with his new found stack though, and to be honest his half pot bet sizing on the flop just makes it difficult, i had seen pot betting on the flop plenty following 3bets about 75% (Only a handful of hands), so half pot had me a little perplexed.

    Maybe this is ABC but i always assume the 4th bet is Aces/Kings, maybe this is a leak but i would find it hard even in a 6max game to shove. Though i have been known to.
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  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited September 2010
    yeah as said easy stack off in 6max (assuming you are decently aggro preflop), and generally flatting 4bets with 100bb stacks isnt a good thing

    good villains should be c/fing AK here its not a nice spot but id prob jam. although i dont play much FR at all
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  • BradnockBradnock Member Posts: 88
    edited September 2010
    LOLRAISE - When i get RR pre opponent dependant you think i should ship with QQ with 100bb?

    Maybe a lot too tight but i find it quite difficult to ship with QQ pre, then again i am giving myself a headache with a low board and get bet into.

    My first suspicion was AK shooted.
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  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited September 2010
    at 2/4 vs regs QQ is a mandatory fist pump get it in preflop, but as from your other thread it makes me think you are probably a bit passive and play your hand generally face up which means he should only ever be 4betting for value and maybe even flatting your 3bet with AK.

    reg v reg hes going to be 4betting as a bluff and with worse hands for value (atleast at 6max) which makes it super fist pump get the money in.   here preflop could actually be a fold but aslong as he is 4bet/calling AK+,KK+ pretty sure stacking off is +EV
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  • Batkin88Batkin88 Member Posts: 1,682
    edited September 2010

    Get it all in flop IMO, whats beating u? AA KK he wouldnt bet out on a set. Or like the others can say shove pre! U hit a gr8 board and his bet seems like hee has put u on ACE KING. I def come over the top all in. Unless ur certain he has aces or kings

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