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JJ OTB facing 4 bet - clear fold?

silentbobsilentbob Member Posts: 2,137
edited October 2010 in The Poker Clinic
Player A has been at the table for around 30-40 minutes or so. I've played against him a couple of times but actually have no notes on him. I vaguely remember the last couple of times I played against him I was on a very loose aggro table which is probably why I haven't made notes cos he'd done nothing that really made me sit up & take notice.

However, this session he'd been quite aggro. Open raising more than I would expect but I hadn't seen him 4 bet pre before. Previously in this session if there had been a 3 bet to his raise he'd always flat. Unfortunately I don't recall any of these situations getting to showdown either as he'd either take it down before the river or give up.

I wasn't really worried about player B. I think this must have been the first time I've played against him as I didn't recognise the name. He brought in short & his stack has been up & down like a yo-yo. He called most PF raises regardless of position.

The reason I 3 bet here is because this was now the 3rd hand running that player A had OR pre & whilst it's possible he'd had a run of good cards I felt that he could well be at it. Given how I've seen him play during the session is this a clear cut fold or is that too nitty?

Cheers in advance

Jay
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
 Small blind  £0.10 £0.10 £6.59
Big blind  £0.20 £0.30 £14.77
  Your hole cards
  • J
  • J
     
 Fold     
Raise  £0.80 £1.10 £21.27
silentbob Raise  £2.20 £3.30 £25.26
 Fold     
Call  £2.00 £5.30 £12.77
Raise  £7.00 £12.30 £14.27
silentbob Call or Fold???    

Comments

  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited October 2010
    Looks pretty clear cut to me its a fold,even if you call what you gonna think if any A K Q is on the flop.I wouldnt get involved others will prob say otherwise
  • donkeyplopdonkeyplop Member Posts: 3,795
    edited October 2010
    Just get it all in then suck out his qq kk aa ;)
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    donkeyplop Small blind  50.00 50.00 3055.00
    debdobs_67 Big blind  100.00 150.00 1860.00
      Your hole cards
    • J
    • J
         
    bigflop1 Raise  400.00 550.00 2635.00
    megkiwi Fold     
    GREGHOGG Fold     
    MOORBY78 Raise  700.00 1250.00 2175.00
    donkeyplop Raise  1550.00 2800.00 1505.00
    debdobs_67 Fold     
    bigflop1 Fold     
    MOORBY78 All-in  2175.00 4975.00 0.00
    donkeyplop Call  1275.00 6250.00 230.00
    donkeyplop Show
    • J
    • J
       
    MOORBY78 Show
    • K
    • K
       
    Flop
       
    • 4
    • J
    • 3
         
    Turn
       
    • 6
         
    River
       
    • 8
         
    donkeyplop Win Three Jacks 6250.00  6480.00
  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited October 2010

    I'd fold Jay.
  • silentbobsilentbob Member Posts: 2,137
    edited October 2010
    I must admit I thought about it & folded at the last second. Despite the fact the guy had been proper aggro in this session I just didn't feel I was in that good a position. I just wasn't sure if this was being too nitty in a cash game which was why I posted it.

    As it turned out player A had AK & player B who I wasn't worried about had 99. 
  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited October 2010

    Ive started folding marginal stuff, (even Ace high yesterday coz my kicker-kicker was only a queen)

    TommyD posted a line a while back on here, that always sticks in my mind......

    If the situation gets tricky, and ur in 2 minds, pretend you have 7-2 off and fold it!

    Served me well :)


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