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Heads up at the end of a tourney, do you call?

kirstiikirstii Member Posts: 787
edited October 2010 in The Poker Clinic

xxxxxxx  Small blind  200.00 200.00 27945.00
kirstii Big blind  400.00 600.00 43455.00
  Your hole cards
  • Q
  • 6
     
xxxxxxx  Call  200.00 800.00 27745.00
kirstii Check     
Flop
   
  • Q
  • 2
  • 10
     
kirstii Check     
xxxxxxx  Bet  800.00 1600.00 26945.00
kirstii Raise  3200.00 4800.00 40255.00
xxxxxxx All-in  26945.00 31745.00 0.00
Got to heads up in a £150 BH, had won 6 out of 7 pots down to aggression without a showdown. Opponent seems fairly standard, do you call?
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited October 2010

    You got 100xbb behind HU?

    There's only the straight draw (9J) he could be jamming with that you can beat,(JK wud raise pre I presume?) - and 3 worse queens. Loads more hands he could have you beat, and even if he has Q3,4,5, split pot is likely anyway. You're far more likely to be crushed.


    I'm folding and waiting to try and outplay him - You say you've won 6/7 small pots by playing strong stuff? - Keep doing that.

     Yeh you have a shot to win it here and now, but you still have the chip advantage, and Id believe I have a skill edge too until proven otherwise. 

    (Btw - nice structure to be this deep when HU!!)

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  • BlackFish3BlackFish3 Member Posts: 2,418
    edited October 2010
    I insta fold but I dont like your check raise with the weak top pair because you will fold out the hands you beat and get shoved on by the hands that beat you, so effectively you are turning your hand into a bluff which is unnecessary here because your top pair has a lot of value from weaker hands.
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited October 2010
    snap call, top pair the nuts heads up :o) also as you have won 6/7 hands i would say they could be making a stand or be on a draw aswell, although could be beaten im calling
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  • Batkin88Batkin88 Member Posts: 1,682
    edited October 2010
    i would never check raise flop but once shoved on it looks like he is making a move in fairness and as its a BH it wouldnt suprise me if he is sitting there with a rag ten! However BH or not there really is no grounds to call this you are beaten by so much just let it go and carry on playing how u have been playing to get such a big stack.

    And next time u get top pair with a shoddy kicker try and control the pot and keep it as small as poss u will lose so much building a pot with a hand like that in the long run.
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  • JohnConnorJohnConnor Member Posts: 1,160
    edited October 2010

    I agree with different points made by Young_Gun and Dohhhhhhh here. I think if you have won the last 6/7 hands without a showdown through aggression, he is definately making a stand here a lot of the time with a 10 (or maybe even a 2!!). However, it comes down to the fact that your 100BBs deep (how?? lol) so I am definately folding here I'm afraid as I think with those stacks if I have any kind of edge I am going to win more often than I will if I call here.

    JC

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  • kirstiikirstii Member Posts: 787
    edited October 2010
    ace1985115 Small blind  200.00 200.00 27945.00
    kirstii Big blind  400.00 600.00 43455.00
      Your hole cards
    • Q
    • 6
    		     
    ace1985115 Call  200.00 800.00 27745.00
    kirstii Check     
    Flop
       
    • Q
    • 2
    • 10
    		     
    kirstii Check     
    ace1985115 Bet  800.00 1600.00 26945.00
    kirstii Raise  3200.00 4800.00 40255.00
    ace1985115 All-in  26945.00 31745.00 0.00
    kirstii Call  24545.00 56290.00 15710.00
    ace1985115 Show
    • J
    • 10
    		   
    kirstii Show
    • Q
    • 6
    		   
    Turn
       
    • A
    		     
    River
       
    • 3
    		     
    kirstii Win Pair of Queens 56290.00  72000.00
    I can see the points that all have made and took the whole clock to make my decision, i agree that the check raise wasn't the best move but have a strong feeling he was making a move. I know how frustrating it is when you just can't win a hand heads up so i decided on the call as i thought i was ahead of the range he is shoving here. And i've no idea how i got to heads up with 100BB lol
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited October 2010

    wow, good call.

    Nice win. wp.

    Maybe this is why I keep coming 2nd!
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  • offshootoffshoot Member Posts: 1,049
    edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: Heads up at the end of a tourney, do you call?:
    snap call, top pair the nuts heads up :o) also as you have won 6/7 hands i would say they could be making a stand or be on a draw aswell, although could be beaten im calling
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN
    this.

    You have top pair, get it in.
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited October 2010
    schweet i love being right, nice call kirsti not an easy one!
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  • kirstiikirstii Member Posts: 787
    edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: Heads up at the end of a tourney, do you call?:
    schweet i love being right, nice call kirsti not an easy one!
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN
    I ain't seen you being wrong often! lol
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