iv just been called a BIG FISH...im I?

BURNShurtz

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
xxx	Small blind		100.00	100.00	5195.00
hopalong26	Big blind		200.00	300.00	11175.00
	Your hole cards	7 8
hazzybear1	Fold
1864	Fold
tommo7778	Fold
BURNShurtz	Call		200.00	500.00	9488.75
xxx	Call		100.00	600.00	5095.00
hopalong26	Check
Flop
		6 3 9
xxx	Bet		200.00	800.00	4895.00
hopalong26	Fold
BURNShurtz	Raise		400.00	1200.00	9088.75
xxx	Call		200.00	1400.00	4695.00
Turn
		9
xxx	Check
BURNShurtz	Bet		700.00	2100.00	8388.75
xxx	Call		700.00	2800.00	3995.00
River
		10
xxx	Check
BURNShurtz	Bet		2100.00	4900.00	6288.75
xxx	Call		2100.00	7000.00	1895.00
BURNShurtz	Show	7 8
xxx	Show	6 5
BURNShurtz	Win	Straight to the 10	7000.00

scotty77

fold pre

DOHHHHHHH

fold or raise pre (think you need some help with the basics, - why we raise? why we call? etc etc)

Why min raise the flop? Do you want him to call? - why? Do you want him to fold? - why?

Whats the idea on the turn? Why did u bet? Why did u bet that much? What is your bet trying to achieve?

Same for the river...?

You're obviously someone who wants to try and improve their game, u post alot and seem to be enthusiastic about the game. 

I spend alot of time watching people play online poker, and talking about hands on msn/email/forums etc etc - So if you want me to try help u get better, then pm me. 

Im no beaneh, but Ive crushed the lower levels, in all 3 disciplines, MTT, SNG and cash, and with only a 30 min session on skype/msn whatever, I reckon I cud help u and make the game seem alot easier.

Just don't mention omaha!!!!!

GL.

Mr_Miyagi

certainly smell fishy

KKarlos93

In a word no, you had position on the button and stacks were between 25-55 big blinds, so no risk of an all in after your limp, you were open ended on the flop and it played accordingly, the only critism might be a raise pre flop in an attempt to steel the blinds, i prefer being the aggressor in position pre flop, but i am not folding decent conectors pre flop

BURNShurtz

In Response to Re: iv just been called a BIG FISH...im I?:

fold or raise pre (think you need some help with the basics, - why we raise? why we call? etc etc) Why min raise the flop? Do you want him to call? - why? Do you want him to fold? - why? Whats the idea on the turn? Why did u bet? Why did u bet that much? What is your bet trying to achieve? Same for the river...? You're obviously someone who wants to try and improve their game, u post alot and seem to be enthusiastic about the game.  I spend alot of time watching people play online poker, and talking about hands on msn/email/forums etc etc - So if you want me to try help u get better, then pm me.  Im no beaneh, but Ive crushed the lower levels, in all 3 disciplines, MTT, SNG and cash, and with only a 30 min session on skype/msn whatever, I reckon I cud help u and make the game seem alot easier. Just don't mention omaha!!!!! GL.
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

i called pre as i was happy to see a flop cheap, if he raises then id fold. i re raised min just to get the pot that little bit bigger for if i do hit my str, again i would prob fold to another raise. turn card paired and seen the check so thought that maybe id played the hand in a way that i could represent the 9s. made my hand on river seen a check again and figured he cant of had much or he would of raised the river instead of giving me the chance to check aswel.
that was what i was thinking playing the hand.
thanks for the offer and would be great to get some more advise of you sometime soon
thanks

nffc4eva

In Response to iv just been called a BIG FISH...im I?:

Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance xxx  Small blind   100.00 100.00 5195.00 hopalong26 Big blind   200.00 300.00 11175.00   Your hole cards 7 8       hazzybear1 Fold         1864 Fold         tommo7778 Fold         BURNShurtz Call   200.00 500.00 9488.75 xxx  Call   100.00 600.00 5095.00 hopalong26 Check         Flop     6 3 9       xxx  Bet   200.00 800.00 4895.00 hopalong26 Fold         BURNShurtz Raise   400.00 1200.00 9088.75 xxx  Call   200.00 1400.00 4695.00 Turn     9       xxx  Check         BURNShurtz Bet   700.00 2100.00 8388.75 xxx  Call   700.00 2800.00 3995.00 River     10       xxx  Check         BURNShurtz Bet   2100.00 4900.00 6288.75 xxx  Call   2100.00 7000.00 1895.00 BURNShurtz Show 7 8       xxx Show 6 5       BURNShurtz Win Straight to the 10 7000.00
Posted by BURNShurtz

Can't really see what you did wrong there m8. on the button 7 8. Up and down on the flop. Post-flop you raise in position. Bet out on turn. Hit straight  on river. No aggression towards you on any street. Personally  i thought bad play post-flop by xxx by just calling the raise.

nffc4eva

only criticism really is the weak raise post-flop and bet on the turn. If xxx had re-raised on turn how much would  you value your hand

Batkin88

lol surely he was the fish!!! you played it fine in my eyes. I wouldnt raise pre because i would want callers with that hand and the re raise on flop is fine but the reason for the re raise there is so he would check the turn i.e giving u a free river. So dont bet the turn next time.

my action

pre flop : call

Flop: re raise min

Turn: Check

River: 3/4 bet

YOUNG_GUN

Xxxx is the fishy imo, not in love with your play though here mate

pre i would fold, if you do want to play the hand raise as you have enough behind 3x raise if you wanna play

post flop either you calland hope to hit rather then waste chips and assess if xxx bets, or if your going to re-raise i would make more 600-800 1 because you can take down the pot without hitting which is good whether your straight drawing or flushing, also if you do hit that magic card you can get the opponents whole stack

xxxx played much worse imo, but not played well mate

DeucesLive

In Response to Re: iv just been called a BIG FISH...im I?:

In Response to Re: iv just been called a BIG FISH...im I? : i called pre as i was happy to see a flop cheap, if he raises then id fold. i re raised min just to get the pot that little bit bigger for if i do hit my str, again i would prob fold to another raise. turn card paired and seen the check so thought that maybe id played the hand in a way that i could represent the 9s. made my hand on river seen a check again and figured he cant of had much or he would of raised the river instead of giving me the chance to check aswel. that was what i was thinking playing the hand. thanks for the offer and would be great to get some more advise of you sometime soon thanks
Posted by BURNShurtz

Table dynamic is important here, if you think they're happy to give you a free limp, it's not so bad. But by far the better option is to raise, as anyone with a big hand will then reraise and let you know to get out. 9/10 they won't, and they'll either make up with a weakish hand or fold. If you flat, they could squeezeraise you with literally any two cards, rightly seeing your limp as weak, and then you fold to an inferior hand.

Postflop, the raise gives you added power whatever cards come down- if an A or K comes down, both those cards are very much in your range by raising. Therefore, if you then bet out on this flop after seeing two checks, you'll almost always take it down. As it is, you have a very legit hand postflop with the oesd, and are able to put in a sizeable bet.

I think you could have bet more down the streets, but the only thing I'm not a fan of really is limping preflop, long term that will only ever get you in trouble. On the button, great place to raise with connected cards, but I'd recommend getting in the habit of raising or folding preflop once the blinds are above 50/100.

BURNShurtz

In Response to Re: iv just been called a BIG FISH...im I?:

only criticism really is the weak raise post-flop and bet on the turn. If xxx had re-raised on turn how much would  you value your hand
Posted by nffc4eva

would of been a fold to a re-raise

kim1986

fine