?? fold or call

iBLUFF

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
TRIP5	Small blind		20.00	20.00	1850.00
mum26	Big blind		40.00	60.00	5852.50
	Your hole cards	10 10
ipoker47	Fold
howdydoo8	Call		40.00	100.00	1770.00
iBLUFF	Raise		200.00	300.00	5342.50
truman18	Fold
TRIP5	Fold
mum26	Call		160.00	460.00	5692.50
howdydoo8	All-in		1770.00	2230.00	0.00
iBLUFF	??

he limped shoved do u think my 10 10 is behind here or do u think its a call advice please!

salazar

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Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance TRIP5 Small blind   20.00 20.00 1850.00 mum26 Big blind   40.00 60.00 5852.50   Your hole cards 10 10       ipoker47 Fold         howdydoo8 Call   40.00 100.00 1770.00 iBLUFF Raise   200.00 300.00 5342.50 truman18 Fold         TRIP5 Fold         mum26 Call   160.00 460.00 5692.50 howdydoo8 All-in   1770.00 2230.00 0.00 iBLUFF ??                                                         he limped shoved do u think my 10 10 is behind here or do u think its a call advice please!
Posted by iBLUFF

Normally when people do this, they are massive AA, or they have some kind of small pp and originally planned to try and hit a set cheap but when it got raised they thought i'll just push and hope i'm racing ak or that everyone will fold thinking i have AA.
So it's going to be one of those way ahead or way behind situations, it's down to you and what type of tourney it is, are you trying to get a big stack early and willing to take a chance? Have you paid a bit to enter and want to give it a real go, is it a rebuy or a freezeout?
answer these questions and your choice should become clear.

Batkin88

lay it down dont risk it, he is happy to shove two opponents here and if you call there is no guarantee that the player behind isnt calling. You have to put him on high pocket pair the way he limped then shoved screams aces so just lay it down.

Donut64

I dont call I either fold or jam I dont want mum coming along with a middling hand or even worse coming over top of me. Im quite happy to put howdy on any pocket pair and was originally looking for a cheap flop.

wardyad

I think he stealing tbh who in there right mind would limp in with aces i think you have him dominated and as for the shove he is trying to steal the chips imo...

kim1986

cawl

Batkin88

its a pretty standard play to limp and shove the first raise with aces in a DYM.
You call that you lose 90% of the time! You want to go three way with pocket tens when your more than likely up against 4 over cards!!! INSANE

iBLUFF

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its a pretty standard play to limp and shove the first raise with aces in a DYM. You call that you lose 90% of the time! You want to go three way with pocket tens when your more than likely up against 4 over cards!!! INSANE
Posted by Batkin88

tbh i would be hoping the limp shove would be from 66,77,88 somethink like that, but i would be more woried about the caller behind..

Batkin88

why would he limp shove with 66 77 88 or anything lower than AK AA KK QQ or maybe JJ? Into two callers he has to have a very good hand he knows he is taking atleats one along with him.
And yes the caller behind is exactly why u should fold beacause TT 3 way is not good lol
What actually happened??

(Its not a good idea to call here either its shove or fold, you call and player behind shoves your under pressure again)

iBLUFF

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why would he limp shove with 66 77 88 or anything lower than AK AA KK QQ or maybe JJ? Into two callers he has to have a very good hand he knows he is taking atleats one along with him. And yes the caller behind is exactly why u should fold beacause TT 3 way is not good lol What actually happened?? (Its not a good idea to call here either its shove or fold, you call and player behind shoves your under pressure again)
Posted by Batkin88

i folded and the player behind folded aswell

blwcdenn

If this was a £5 DYM, with your chip stack in this position I fold even though if I call and lose I still have close to 4k in chips.  With the blinds being so small, he has no reason to bluff  with e.g. AK or smaller pocket pair against you (the chip leader) unless he has AA, KK, QQ, JJ or maybe AK/AQ at worst.  He's only likely to shove with an inferior hand to a player with a similar size or lower chip stack or if the blinds are a lot higher.  Remember, you are not playing to win, you are playing to finish in the top 3 so in summary, pick a better spot to get the chips in or let the small stacks fight it out with each other.  I think you made the correct play.

iBLUFF

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If this was a £5 DYM, with your chip stack in this position I fold even though if I call and lose I still have close to 4k in chips.  With the blinds being so small, he has no reason to bluff  with e.g. AK or smaller pocket pair against you (the chip leader) unless he has AA, KK, QQ, JJ or maybe AK/AQ at worst.  He's only likely to shove with an inferior hand to a player with a similar size or lower chip stack or if the blinds are a lot higher.  Remember, you are not playing to win, you are playing to finish in the top 3 so in summary, pick a better spot to get the chips in or let the small stacks fight it out with each other.  I think you made the correct play.
Posted by blwcdenn

it was not a dym it was a torney, so thinking that should i of called?

blwcdenn

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In Response to Re:?? fold or call : it was not a dym it was a torney, so thinking that should i of called?
Posted by iBLUFF

In my opinion, yes.