If fish is Seat 1 and you can have either: Good reg in seat 2, you in seat 3 OR you in seat 2, good reg in seat 3. Which would you choose? I know what I would.
Depends if fish in seat one is in seat 1 is the only fish at the table, if there was a fish in 5 and 6 then I would take seat 2. If the reg has a full stack and fish is the only fish then I would take seat 4.
If fish is Seat 1 and you can have either: Good reg in seat 2, you in seat 3 OR you in seat 2, good reg in seat 3. Which would you choose? I know what I would. Posted by BrownnDog
obv seat 3, if it was 200nl who is in seat 4,5 and 6. If all 4,5 and 6 where good regs then this table is obv a big no go, if another fish was sat in seat 5 then i am gonna have to take seat 2. This thread is mainly at 50nl and i shouldnt of put the 200nl thing in. At 50nl if you have 2 regs (tag) on the table and 3 fish what is the perfect seating? pos on the 2 tag regs or pos on the 3 fish? what if other regs on the table are thinking they want to stay out of my way, will that change the perfect seating?
question should apply to all stakes as regs are going to be roughly the same at evey level in relative to each other.
browndog u said vs some regs youd rather have POS on them and be oop to the fish but then also it depends on the fish, if theres a 100vpip fish there is noway that you'd take position on any reg vs position on the fish.
vs a decent reg at your stake and the average fish at your stake there is noway that having position on the reg is more +ev than the fish
kam, I`m not sure you understand me. I`m not worried about people covering me.....the opposite in fact. It is easier to stack someone in position than oop so I want them to have more money than me, not less. This has nothing to do with scared money. Also, how can I know my non cig break winrates when there havent been any. I wasnt actually aware I could wait for bb after sitting out, how bads that lol, I just assumed I owed the blinds and they had to be paid, unless i got auto sat out for being away for too long, which is ok unless there is someone on the waiting list who nicks my seat. So, some are saying get pos on the fish, some are saying get it on the regs. Must be a close decision then, offshoot what does `ainec` mean? Posted by OMahonyO
It might be close for some, and maybe thats just their personal perference or matches their play style etc. Me personally I always want the fish to my right if I can, and I don't care if I have regular, solid players to my left. The reason for this is you should feel when you go to that table you are going to be the winner. Might not work out that way, but its a mindset I like before playing. Secondly, I'm not going to be playing a massive amount of hands from very early postion because like we all know thats a sucky place to be playing from no matter who you have to your left. So if I'm playing from late postions, then at least two of the solid regulars are going to be in the blinds and I'll have postion on them and postion on the weaker players to my right as well. Sure, depending on how late a postion you are opening a pot will depend on how many solid players "may" have postion on you, but remember they are less likely to come into a pot without a hand as well unless deciding to make a play using postion, which they aren't going to be at every hand.
On your BB issue after your cig break, hope thats all cleared up by the fact you know you can just reenter the game when the BB gets round to you again on each table, and hence no losses from the break. Though I still say try and put each table to sit out as close to BB as you can too so that you get as many "free" hands as possible.
If playing 6-8 tables and going outside every 30-40 mins for a cig, then coming back to be sat out at every table, then being asked to post the sb/bb again as I had missed them. How much does this affect my bottom line? Im sure I remember reading somewhere that a players edge is usually not that big that they can afford to post their blind every time they start a session without waiting their turn. I dont know how accurate this is, and obviously it would depend on how long the sessions are. Is it just nothing to worry about? and before all the stop smoking replies......yeh its on my to do list lol Next question..... Who should I be trying to get position on at the tables, the fish or the sharks? I tend to try to get pos on who I consider the better or more aggro players, also taking stack sizes into account, but not sure if this is right. Its also balancing out not just me having pos on these players but making sure they have the worse position on me, cheers Posted by OMahonyO
Hmmmm. Smoke in doors and wee in a bottle. I personally recommend the paul masson california carafe but i'm just an average guy. Maybe get a potty if you are a woman. This should solve your problems. Don't worry about the sharks. We all have to learn.
In Response to Re: A couple of basic questions : maybe at mid stakes but not at low stakes. Posted by hotpotato
I think there is a point here..... low stakes fish are a different kettle of.....well fish i suppose!!! Seriously though a fish at the lower levels does not understand position, its meaning, or why its important. They are betting once they have hit there bottom pair with mid kicker. You cannot play the man/ woman - you must play the cards, therefore the option of bluffing and your C-bet in position becomes alot less valuable - immensly so at the lowest stakes. The definition of a fish changes as you up stakes. I have no doubt i would be the biggest fishy fish at 50p/£1. at the lower end of the feeding pool im a shark.......small one, but thats how they all start ;0)
A shark at lower levels, understands a bit more than the hand rankings, and knows to play tight, he can be bluffed and will fold to C bets (where appropriate), and position on these players is paramount to taking there chips.
Therefore at lower levels if its an option of being ip or oop vs a set of fish or sharks, im oop with the fish and ip with the sharks all day long.
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This thread is mainly at 50nl and i shouldnt of put the 200nl thing in. At 50nl if you have 2 regs (tag) on the table and 3 fish what is the perfect seating? pos on the 2 tag regs or pos on the 3 fish? what if other regs on the table are thinking they want to stay out of my way, will that change the perfect seating?
browndog u said vs some regs youd rather have POS on them and be oop to the fish but then also it depends on the fish, if theres a 100vpip fish there is noway that you'd take position on any reg vs position on the fish.
vs a decent reg at your stake and the average fish at your stake there is noway that having position on the reg is more +ev than the fish
On your BB issue after your cig break, hope thats all cleared up by the fact you know you can just reenter the game when the BB gets round to you again on each table, and hence no losses from the break. Though I still say try and put each table to sit out as close to BB as you can too so that you get as many "free" hands as possible.
A shark at lower levels, understands a bit more than the hand rankings, and knows to play tight, he can be bluffed and will fold to C bets (where appropriate), and position on these players is paramount to taking there chips.
Therefore at lower levels if its an option of being ip or oop vs a set of fish or sharks, im oop with the fish and ip with the sharks all day long.