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Develop software application to fight collusion!
daveydavey
Member Posts: 217
Collusion on this site is a major concern of mine. I don't trust the sites anti-collusion system at all, I haven't reported collusion which I have suspected but only because it has happened a few times with different names, if I saw the same two names (in a six seat SnG) again I would.
I believe that Sky Poker needs to develop a downloadable software application like the major sites which would allow greater anti-collusion features.
With sky as it is it is easy for multiple people to log in and play on the same I.P address (in the same room).
Surely this needs to be addressed? There are plenty of folk on the popular 2+2 poker forum who have said they avoid sky because of security fears. I believe that skys next stage should be to develop a software programme...you could in theory leave the browser applicable stuff in place too, but security is a big concern for me on here.
I believe that Sky Poker needs to develop a downloadable software application like the major sites which would allow greater anti-collusion features.
With sky as it is it is easy for multiple people to log in and play on the same I.P address (in the same room).
Surely this needs to be addressed? There are plenty of folk on the popular 2+2 poker forum who have said they avoid sky because of security fears. I believe that skys next stage should be to develop a software programme...you could in theory leave the browser applicable stuff in place too, but security is a big concern for me on here.
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Thats why you see the same users on the same Sit and Go's, because they run less frequently so therefore they have to take every Sit and Go they can.
I play cash mainly and on the 50nl/100nl tables it is not out of the ordinary for 4 different players to all be seated with each other on 6 tables....
As the site grows and grows, the more tables will be running and the less likely hood that the same players are on the same tables.
Oh and of course if you are worried that 2 players might be working together, then send Sky an email with their users names and some tournie IDs....it will be easy to trace as for instance one guy might fold AQ because he/she knows that his friend has AK....
This is just a concern of mine, on this site and any other site, I have'nt experienced any colluding yet, However I am alittle worried about new software Sky are releasing just next week. I believe it will allow players to send private messages to each other during game. This opens up all sorts of possibilities for colluding, including exchanging telephone numbers.
LOOK AT THE RISKS IT BRINGS Vs THE BENEFITS....
Poker is an all against all game, and should be show one, show all. It is not a team game and should not allow "whispering". I don't fully know the rules for Live poker, but i'm pretty sure, if players are whispering to other players around a poker table, this would be seen as cheating.
Sky, leave the social network to facebook,and focus on the forum to build a community.
Got a bad feeling about this.
Also, with (wireless) networks it is not uncommon for multiple players on the same IP address to be playing the same game. For example, a husband and wife might be playing in different rooms in the same house. In my experience this leads to greater competition rather than less.
ALL online sites are equally susceptible to collusion through any of several real-time messaging services that are used by a large majority of internet users.
It is not possible for these to be detected by poker software (by any means that I know of).
The only way to detect collusion is through patterns of play, e.g. people staying out of each others pots or making "soft" folds, but even this is only circumstantial.
If you suspect people of colluding then report it to SkyPoker who will, I'm sure, investigate it thoroughly.
People who want to collude will not be suddenly tempted into doing it because of a PM system. And two players who get along and will want to email/speak to each other will do so too; I'm sure there are many people who are in contact with each other outside of Sky despite meeting here....
In fact a year and a half ago I was invited to join a facebook group for Sky players...
The only downside to the system will be people messageing gossip etc to each other...while I agree that it doesn't have a place on a poker site I also can't see how it will increase the likelyhood of coullding.
Your question is a fair one, but it has been asked, & answered, several times previously.
Sky Poker DOES have very sophisticated anti-collusion systems.
They work. There is adequate proof of that.
The Downloadable Client is in the late stages of development & testing, & will be available very soon.
I hope that answers your questions satisfactorily.
you can be sure that we take collusion very seriously and have a dedicated team continuously looking into this.
as for private messaging...
The private messaging will be part of the community (profile area) and not present 'in-game' on the poker tables. it is intended to be a (massive) enhancement to our community and provide our users like you with a much friendlier, smoother system that allows making friends and being part of the community an easy and enjoyable process.
it is my job to make sure that this community is the best out there and is a place that people want to come and spend some of their valuable time. i see developments like this the perfect way to fill in the gaps that we are missing at the moment and i hope you will join me in enjoying and using the new features that we release in the community.
all the best Guys,
Rich
I trust Sky poker to stamp it out but just looking at all bases.
Thanks for the replies guys.