KK i hit Trips on flop. Now what?

shaun09

Well this was last nights Bh, the hand did get shown on tv as i asked them to, I did mention lats night, that i was pretty sure he hit flush when the turn came, so when he re raised i called hoping to pair board up, not only did it not pair, it brought a card which brought a stright into play.

Would you of called river? or shoved turn?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
cyberdog	Small blind		15.00	15.00	2195.00
mrsmarley	Big blind		30.00	45.00	1835.00
	Your hole cards	K K
shaun09	Raise		120.00	165.00	4120.00
Y4JAK	Fold
poolie08	Fold
Jackoe11is	Fold
cyberdog	Call		105.00	270.00	2090.00
mrsmarley	Fold
Flop
		K 3 9
cyberdog	Check
shaun09	Bet		120.00	390.00	4000.00
cyberdog	Call		120.00	510.00	1970.00
Turn
		10
cyberdog	Check
shaun09	Bet		255.00	765.00	3745.00
cyberdog	Raise		765.00	1530.00	1205.00
shaun09	Call		510.00	2040.00	3235.00
River
		Q
cyberdog	All-in		1205.00	3245.00	0.00

YOUNG_GUN

Call and cry, Fwiw i would bet more on flop

dont think i'd get away from that unless good read

The_Don90

i agree with ypung gun, the flop bet allows every draw in the world in with 4-1 on their moneys

shaun09

So your both caling river? even tho any j or 2 spades is beating me? that re raise looked suspicious to me.  But also quiet strong.

The_Don90

I missed the J draw, no i probably fold the river crying like mad, but the problem here is the FLOP not the river, bet 3/4 of the pot minimum on the flop,

DOHHHHHHH

In Response to Re: KK i hit Trips on flop. Now what?:

Call and cry, Fwiw i would bet more on flop dont think i'd get away from that unless good read
Posted by YOUNG_GUN

I'ts worth alot.

Bet it!!!

LOL_RAISE

the river card is basically a blank. what Jx hands does he raise the turn with that isnt QJ or Jx of spades. fold river and give your monitor the middle finger

shaun09

the flop was quiet safe for me providing another spade dint come, which unlucky for me (or not) so i want to keep him interested

The_Don90

In Response to Re: KK i hit Trips on flop. Now what?:

the flop was quiet safe for me providing another spade dint come, which unlucky for me (or not) so i want to keep him interested
Posted by shaun09

Im not sure how that works, you contradic yourself here, you flop the nuts. CORRECT, but you know if a spade falls you can easily be behind, so WHY offer 4-1 odds making your opponent have a PROFITABLE call to hit. This is cash poker isnt it. Therefore profitable calls can make the differance over time.

Sorry maybe im just used to plays like this at No Limit 4, but this is where you learn calls like this can be made and about the odds, i dont mean to sound harsh but its basic poker. If you dont understand this maybe step down the levels and re-evaluate your game over time and learn a few things, i know your not an idiot at the table, but maybe a couple of edges to straighten up on.

Don

shaun09

i wasnt counting on a spade coming. so was gonan milk him down the streets. but it came. I admit my betting wasnt great, as my pre flop bet was the same as my flop bet.

If your on about stepping down the limits, i play at 2/4 and 4/8 any way. So can got any lower.

silentbob

Personally I'm folding the river here. I think there's just too much beating you although I do tend to agree with what LOL_RAISE said about the river being a blank.

fwiw I'm potting the flop here as well. Yes, you've flopped the nuts but barring running spades or the board pairing your hand is vulnerable here & if he's on a draw then make him pay for it.

LOL_RAISE

well a spade is going to come on turn ~20% of the time so you should plan for when it does come!

yb

Against this villain you're never good here.

The_Don90

In Response to Re: KK i hit Trips on flop. Now what?:

i wasnt counting on a spade coming. so was gonan milk him down the streets. but it came. I admit my betting wasnt great, as my pre flop bet was the same as my flop bet. If your on about stepping down the limits, i play at 2/4 and 4/8 any way. So can got any lower.
Posted by shaun09

Shaun this hand is played at NL30. Pick a limit and stick to it for a while.

P.S. I cant really talk about jumping limits, im a big culprit but it means i can tell you how much it damaged my game before i went for a break.

shaun09

The don. this was in the 10k Bounty hunter last night. What makes you think its 30nl?

blinds are 15/30 not 15p/30p i dont play at 30nl. i also said in first post this is from the 10k Bounty hunter.

Last 5 weeks i have been sticking to my levels and i am winning at my levels

Why is the turn a blank? im thinking he has flush every day of the week here, why am i rong att hinking this? i dint put him on a hand, only flush,

LOL_RAISE

the turn isnt a blank, the river is. you say you are scared now that Jx beats you but he has no Jx in his range apart from JQ or Jx of spades which are already ahead on the turn

The_Don90

ah misread sorry shaun.

Although as LOL RAISE says above i must agree.

Batkin88

why did u put him on flush draw??? what says flush draw??? The re raise looks more like two pair or a lower set trying to finish the pot. If he hit the flush i cant see him raising here unless its a low flush but surely the call pre flop says he has high cards or a low pair (the set)
The flop bet needs to be pot size or just over pot when there is two same suited on the board really IMO.
I wouldnt put him on the flush tbh i havent seen the outcome did he have the flush??? i take it u saw on T.V

OMahonyO

In Response to Re: KK i hit Trips on flop. Now what?:

the river card is basically a blank. what Jx hands does he raise the turn with that isnt QJ or Jx of spades. fold river and give your monitor the middle finger
Posted by LOL_RAISE

lololol , this is the second thing I have read this morning that I thought only I did.   I must be normal

GREGHOGG

ship it in on the turn

You got no more decisions then and plenty of outs if you are already behind. 

shaun09

Ok i posted hand on tv, and he had 910Hearts. So i was winning but i folded