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much i could have done different? - Second hand added, thanks

The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
edited October 2010 in The Poker Clinic
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
The_Don90 Small blind  25.00 25.00 1600.00
BananaDog Big blind  50.00 75.00 1930.00
  Your hole cards
  • 5
  • 6
     
humfrey Call  50.00 125.00 357.50
rosco02 Fold     
tom759 Call  50.00 175.00 3485.00
darrenadd7 Call  50.00 225.00 1365.00
The_Don90 Call  25.00 250.00 1575.00
BananaDog Check     
Flop
   
  • 2
  • 5
  • 5
     
The_Don90 Bet  187.50 437.50 1387.50
BananaDog Fold     
humfrey Fold     
tom759 Call  187.50 625.00 3297.50
darrenadd7 Call  187.50 812.50 1177.50
Turn
   
  • 4
     
The_Don90 Bet  609.38 1421.88 778.12
tom759 Call  609.38 2031.26 2688.12
darrenadd7 Fold     
River
   
  • Q
     
The_Don90 All-in  778.12 2809.38 0.00
tom759 Call  778.12 3587.50 1910.00
The_Don90 Show
  • 5
  • 6
   
tom759 Show
  • A
  • 3
   
tom759 Win Straight to the 5 3587.50  5497.50
opinions please - £11 DYM
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited October 2010
    Fold pre. bad things might happen. like how you played it after the flop though.
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  • JohnConnorJohnConnor Member Posts: 1,160
    edited October 2010
    This is a cooler in my opinion from your point of view. Just a couple of things I would say but nothing major:

    1) Bet the full pot rather than 3/4 with that many opponents (even over-bet if you like, depending on opponents)

    2) Make a note about his call on the flop and bet relentlessly for value in future spots vs him
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  • JohnConnorJohnConnor Member Posts: 1,160
    edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: much i could have done different?:
    Fold pre. bad things might happen. like how you played it after the flop though.
    Posted by beaneh
    Normally I would agree with this. Not for that price though.
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: much i could have done different?:
    This is a cooler in my opinion from your point of view. Just a couple of things I would say but nothing major: 1) Bet the full pot rather than 3/4 with that many opponents (even over-bet if you like, depending on opponents) 2) Make a note about his call on the flop and bet relentlessly for value in future spots vs him
    Posted by JohnConnor
    I made a very detialed note, bumped into him next game, he busted very quick on a similar situation.
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited October 2010
    Fold pre simplese other then that you played fine but thats ze problem playing these hands
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  • pryce6pryce6 Member Posts: 1,058
    edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: much i could have done different?:
    This is a cooler in my opinion from your point of view. Just a couple of things I would say but nothing major: 1) Bet the full pot rather than 3/4 with that many opponents (even over-bet if you like, depending on opponents) 2) Make a note about his call on the flop and bet relentlessly for value in future spots vs him
    Posted by JohnConnor
    Do not do this. 
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited October 2010
    OK heres another £11 DYM hand
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    The_Don90 Small blind  10.00 10.00 1970.00
    Mister_M Big blind  20.00 30.00 2040.00
      Your hole cards
    • J
    • K
    		     
    warburton1 Fold     
    DAFTBET Fold     
    jammymj Fold     
    RAMBOY Fold     
    The_Don90 Raise  70.00 100.00 1900.00
    Mister_M Call  60.00 160.00 1980.00
    Flop
       
    • 10
    • Q
    • K
    		     
    The_Don90 Bet  120.00 280.00 1780.00
    Mister_M Call  120.00 400.00 1860.00
    Turn
       
    • 6
    		     
    The_Don90 Bet  400.00 800.00 1380.00
    Mister_M Call  400.00 1200.00 1460.00
    River
       
    • A
    		     
    The_Don90 Bet  900.00 2100.00 480.00
    Mister_M All-in  1460.00 3560.00 0.00
    The_Don90 All-in  480.00 4040.00 0.00
    Mister_M Unmatched bet  80.00 3960.00 80.00
    The_Don90 Show
    • J
    • K
    		   
    Mister_M Show
    • J
    • 7
    		   
    Mister_M Win Flush to the Ace 3960.00  4040.00
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited October 2010

    Risk aversion Donald-son!!!
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: much i could have done different?:
    Risk aversion Donald-son!!!
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    Do you fold ethier hand mate?

    Also the latter, surley your expecting your calling for a split, knowing your also commited ?
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  • JohnConnorJohnConnor Member Posts: 1,160
    edited October 2010

    The 2nd hand I would fold pre I don't personally think there's any need to get involved with marginal hands that early on but that's just my style I guess. If you're going to play I think your raise size is perfect.

    I really like your bet on the flop I think you played that just about perfect. Having been called on the flop, though, I really think you need to slow down. A 2 pair hand here is easily within his range and this is what I would be putting him on. I would go into check/call or check/fold mode depending on his bet sizing and that goes for the turn and the river, even having made the straight.

    If you look at the net result of this hand you have exited the DYM 1st level with a marginal hand blind on blind and it's not due in any way to a cooler situation. This is an absolute disaster in DYM play and if you can eliminate this I think you will see an immediate improvement in your results/ROI.

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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited October 2010
    2nd hand I wud call pre, bet pot on the flop, and once he calls, check call unless I make the nuts.
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  • Batkin88Batkin88 Member Posts: 1,682
    edited October 2010
    in cash i would shove turn on second hand but as its DYM i would check call from turn.
    First hand bet pot on that flop with amount of players in hand
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