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Tricky spot on the turn! fold or shove?

donkeyplopdonkeyplop Member Posts: 3,795
edited October 2010 in The Poker Clinic
Other guy had been fairly quiet and hadnt raised loads before this hand.

He seemed fairly solid so what would you do here??

I guess its either fold or re raise here?

I re raised, would you do the same?

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
xxx
Small blind   £0.04 £0.04 £9.99
DTWBANDIT Big blind   £0.08 £0.12 £7.06
  Your hole cards
  • K
  • K
     
blondynka7 Fold        
Poplar_Boy Call   £0.08 £0.20 £4.42
donkeyplop Raise   £0.40 £0.60 £8.35
xxx
Call   £0.36 £0.96 £9.63
DTWBANDIT Fold        
Poplar_Boy Call   £0.32 £1.28 £4.10
Flop
   
  • 7
  • 3
  • 7
     
xxx
Check        
Poplar_Boy Check        
donkeyplop Bet   £0.96 £2.24 £7.39
xxx
Call   £0.96 £3.20 £8.67
Poplar_Boy Fold        
Turn
   
  • Q
     
xxx
Bet   £3.20 £6.40 £5.47
donkeyplop ???
       

Comments

  • Scottomus0Scottomus0 Member Posts: 322
    edited October 2010
    unless he's got Q7 which is obvious he's not of course you'd shove, whats beating you?

    maybe he slow played the set, but cant expect that...
  • Batkin88Batkin88 Member Posts: 1,682
    edited October 2010
    shove DP if your reads are ryt the 7 isnt in his range the only thing he has thats beating u is a full house.
    Shove and if he is ahead u have 2 outs which is enough for me!!! :)
  • Batkin88Batkin88 Member Posts: 1,682
    edited October 2010
    sorry 4 outs
  • donkeyplopdonkeyplop Member Posts: 3,795
    edited October 2010
    Good points!

    Maybe im just being paranoid that he did have the 7 after my recent run.


  • Batkin88Batkin88 Member Posts: 1,682
    edited October 2010
    did u fold?
  • swiperswiper Member Posts: 34
    edited October 2010
    In my opinion people are too worried what the other players have,especially on cash. So many people bluff i put him on aq his only other holding is a7 unlikely.Also cant see him betting out on missed flush after turn.I think your ahead allways follow your instincts in these spots good luck.
  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited October 2010
    a7 suited maybe? only hand your losing too pair of 3s unlikely as played also but i prefer to shove here dont think a7 would be played like this though most the time... so

    your beating far more hands then your losing too, he could easily have AQ,KQ, Ax suited if no solid reads i would shove and see how they react put pressure on him
  • donkeyplopdonkeyplop Member Posts: 3,795
    edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: Tricky spot on the turn! fold or shove?:
    did u fold?
    Posted by Batkin88
    No all the money went in.
  • donkeyplopdonkeyplop Member Posts: 3,795
    edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: Tricky spot on the turn! fold or shove?:
    a7 suited maybe? only hand your losing too pair of 3s unlikely as played also but i prefer to shove here dont think a7 would be played like this though most the time... so your beating far more hands then your losing too, he could easily have AQ,KQ, Ax suited if no solid reads i would shove and see how they react put pressure on him
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN

    Like here few hands before on other table!
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    Macacan Small blind   £0.04 £0.04 £5.14
    searcher12 Big blind   £0.08 £0.12 £10.64
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • A
         
    donkeyplop Raise   £0.40 £0.52 £8.37
    xxx
    Call   £0.40 £0.92 £5.65
    Macacan Fold        
    searcher12 Fold        
    Flop
       
    • 10
    • 3
    • 8
         
    xxx
    Check        
    donkeyplop Bet   £0.92 £1.84 £7.45
    xxx
    All-in   £5.65 £7.49 £0.00
    donkeyplop Call   £4.73 £12.22 £2.72
    xxx
    Show
    • 3
    • 3
         
    donkeyplop Show
    • A
    • A
         
    Turn
       
    • 10
         
    River
       
    • J
         
    xxx
    Win Full House, 3s and 10s £11.31   £11.31
  • Batkin88Batkin88 Member Posts: 1,682
    edited October 2010
    did u win the original post? with KK
  • donkeyplopdonkeyplop Member Posts: 3,795
    edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: Tricky spot on the turn! fold or shove?:
    did u win the original post? with KK
    Posted by Batkin88
    Yes I rivered a king.
  • Batkin88Batkin88 Member Posts: 1,682
    edited October 2010
    loooooooooool so u where behind quality
  • bigflop1bigflop1 Member Posts: 1,034
    edited October 2010
    what did other guy have?? a7? 33?
  • DaveOwlXDaveOwlX Member Posts: 140
    edited October 2010
    I think if he hadn't played too many hands and he limped in pre-flop with a call, on the flop with a call then bets when a Q arrives on the turn I think I may have folded here. Interesting you saying that you were behind until the lucky river card so in effect you got your one out to win at that point (if you had known their cards).

    Kings are difficult to fold on that kind of board if he isn't loose. With a possible heart flush draw on the flop (if he had it) I don't think he would have only called on the flop and bet on the turn when a club came if he had the flush draw unless he had 7s or a Q in his hand.

    The fact that a few hands before you noted he played pocket 3's and a 3 came on the flop showed you his kind of range. Definitely one I would have been weary of.
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