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another one.

Scottomus0Scottomus0 Member Posts: 322
edited October 2010 in The Poker Clinic
other than the limping pre! just unlucky...? or lucky on there part?
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
alvarez03 Small blind   50.00 50.00 6200.00
igor1966 Big blind   100.00 150.00 8690.00
  Your hole cards
  • K
  • Q
     
Uzi_lover Fold        
TaffYank Fold        
wiganway Call   100.00 250.00 15835.00
Scottomus0 Call   100.00 350.00 6645.00
alvarez03 Fold        
igor1966 Check        
Flop
   
  • Q
  • 6
  • 8
     
igor1966 Check        
wiganway Check        
Scottomus0 Bet   262.50 612.50 6382.50
igor1966 Call   262.50 875.00 8427.50
wiganway Call   262.50 1137.50 15572.50
Turn
   
  • 9
     
igor1966 Bet   853.13 1990.63 7574.37
wiganway Call   853.13 2843.76 14719.37
Scottomus0 All-in   6382.50 9226.26 0.00
igor1966 All-in   7574.37 16800.63 0.00
wiganway Fold        
igor1966 Unmatched bet   2045.00 14755.63 2045.00
igor1966 Show
  • J
  • 10
     
Scottomus0 Show
  • K
  • Q
     
River
   
  • 7
     
igor1966 Win Straight to the Queen 14755.63   16800.63
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  • shaun09shaun09 Member Posts: 1,606
    edited October 2010
    As there are stright possibilitys out there and 2 pair, you have 2 customers that obviously have some part of that flop, so on the river there has been a bet and a call, Im never shoving here on river, im just check calling.
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  • ACESOVER8sACESOVER8s Member Posts: 1,307
    edited October 2010
    Why shove the turn? you only have 1 pair, not even with top kicker. They have bet out on the 9 and got a caller yet you shove? 6k into a 3k pot is the wrong risk reward for a hand that your losing to str8, 2 pair, over pair, trips. I don't like the call for the gutshot from villain but your push is worse IMO
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  • Eagle26Eagle26 Member Posts: 431
    edited October 2010
    other than the limping pre! just unlucky...? or lucky on there part?

    neither! raise pre. shove on turn is awful
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  • Batkin88Batkin88 Member Posts: 1,682
    edited October 2010
    raise pre and pot bet flop he wont be there anymore and you would of won the pot.
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  • DaveOwlXDaveOwlX Member Posts: 140
    edited October 2010
    I agree with Batkin. I don't think your flop bet was enough to remove draw hands, a 6 or an 8 pair from the competition. With your stack a shove was absolute madness with just a pair of Queens (even if your kicker was decent) unless you had nailed on reads of your opponents by this time. Leaving it too cheap for them to see their next card on the turn was the problem and then you got into unnecessary trouble with the hopeful shove. Pot bet was a warning.
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  • Scottomus0Scottomus0 Member Posts: 322
    edited October 2010
    yeah i understand, i saw the straight draw but didnt really put him on it, and with the shove i was expecting him to fold as he was chasing! and hit...

    never again! :)

    cheers
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  • huuuuumehuuuuume Member Posts: 569
    edited October 2010
    dont like the way you played this.  if you are going to play the hand raise pre flop.

    flop is fine but when you get 2 callers then alarm bells have to be ringing so slow down your play on the turn not speed up (unless you have perfect reads that tell you otherwise)

    fold turn.  there are 3 players in the pot what 2 hands do you think the other 2 players have that you are ahead of?

    the last thing that should ever happen here is that you stack off/double someone up.  you only have top pair...not the nuts
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  • pryce6pryce6 Member Posts: 1,058
    edited October 2010
    its weird that u would want to limp to keep the pot small but inflate it by shoving the turn?

    if you are going to limp never stack off with just top pair. it would be understandable if you raised pre.
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  • FatBoy89FatBoy89 Member Posts: 53
    edited October 2010
    after the 800bet and call i wouldn't be shoving all in there. I personally wouldnt have called your all in on a gutshot but shoving in isnt that great in my opinion. You also have to think anyone could have anything because there was no raise pre-flop someone could have flopped a set and the board is straighty
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