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Whats the right play here?

tapewormtapeworm Member Posts: 432
edited November 2010 in The Poker Clinic
Villan has just sat down, but I have notes saying tight passive. Didnt mean to limp pre on the button, was not paying attention - so we are where we are.

What is the right play after the shove, and what do you put him on?
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
xbootneck2 Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £1.80
ashers Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £2.59
Villan Big blind  £0.04 £0.10 £3.96
  Your hole cards
  • 8
  • 6
     
eddie2 Call  £0.04 £0.14 £6.89
Villan Check     
tapeworm Call  £0.04 £0.18 £4.99
xbootneck2 Call  £0.02 £0.20 £1.78
ashers Check     
Flop
   
  • K
  • 10
  • 9
     
xbootneck2 Check     
ashers Bet  £0.04 £0.24 £2.55
eddie2 Fold     
Villan Call  £0.04 £0.28 £3.92
tapeworm Raise  £0.28 £0.56 £4.71
xbootneck2 Fold     
ashers Fold     
Villan Call  £0.24 £0.80 £3.68
Turn
   
  • Q
     
Villan All-in  £3.68 £4.48 £0.00
tapeworm ??     
  

   
  
   
   
     
    
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  • KAM99KAM99 Member Posts: 773
    edited November 2010
    Well the usual rule is "Never go bust in an unraised pot", but taking the stakes into account I'm likely making the call in this spot. He could easy be drawing to a heart in his hand and trying to shove you off, or any random pair/2 pair combo or at best the straight. So many hands he could have, and a made better flush is the least likely of them, so think in this spot I'm calling all day, and just reloading if its one of those days when he does have a made better flush.
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  • ybyb Member Posts: 1,471
    edited November 2010
    fist pump call
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: Whats the right play here?:
    Well the usual rule is "Never go bust in an unraised pot", but taking the stakes into account I'm likely making the call in this spot. He could easy be drawing to a heart in his hand and trying to shove you off, or any random pair/2 pair combo or at best the straight. So many hands he could have, and a made better flush is the least likely of them, so think in this spot I'm calling all day, and just reloading if its one of those days when he does have a made better flush.
    Posted by KAM99
    There isn't a rule saying "Never bust someone in an unraised pot"
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  • KAM99KAM99 Member Posts: 773
    edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: Whats the right play here?:
    In Response to Re: Whats the right play here? : There isn't a rule saying "Never bust someone in an unraised pot"
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    Ok, not a rule, but its a saying in poker. Don't know who first used it, but its not one I made up myself. And I don't always agree with it either. IT's mainly a saying for not being silly with say TP/WK against heavy action. Hence why I said didn't apply in this spot for me. :)

    EDIT: Thiink it wass Doyle Brunson that coined the phrase first, but not 100% sure.
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  • ACESOVER8sACESOVER8s Member Posts: 1,307
    edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: Whats the right play here?:
    In Response to Re: Whats the right play here? : Ok, not a rule, but its a saying in poker. Don't know who first used it, but its not one I made up myself. And I don't always agree with it either. IT's mainly a saying for not being silly with say TP/WK against heavy action. Hence why I said didn't apply in this spot for me. :) EDIT: Thiink it wass Doyle Brunson that coined the phrase first, but not 100% sure.
    Posted by KAM99
    Well your right, there is a saying that goes "Never go bust in an unraised pot" Dohhh reversed it on you though :)

    There is no saying Never bust someone else in an unraised pot lol
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  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited November 2010
    i dont mind limping behind preflop on the button especially when we are unliekly to get squeezed, and if we do get raied unlikely to get many folds.

    obv snap call
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  • tapewormtapeworm Member Posts: 432
    edited November 2010
    Ok so general consensus is that you call all day long. Good.

    I had him down as having the Jack, which he did - of hearts no less. all good in the end. Have no idea why he limped pre though.
    xbootneck2 Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £1.80
    ashers Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £2.59
    Villan Big blind  £0.04 £0.10 £3.96
      Your hole cards
    • 8
    • 6
    		     
    eddie2 Call  £0.04 £0.14 £6.89
    Villan Check     
    tapeworm Call  £0.04 £0.18 £4.99
    xbootneck2 Call  £0.02 £0.20 £1.78
    ashers Check     
    Flop
       
    • K
    • 10
    • 9
    		     
    xbootneck2 Check     
    ashers Bet  £0.04 £0.24 £2.55
    eddie2 Fold     
    Villan Call  £0.04 £0.28 £3.92
    tapeworm Raise  £0.28 £0.56 £4.71
    xbootneck2 Fold     
    ashers Fold     
    Villan Call  £0.24 £0.80 £3.68
    Turn
       
    • Q
    		     
    Villan All-in  £3.68 £4.48 £0.00
    tapeworm Call  £3.68 £8.16 £1.03
    Villan Show
    • J
    • A
    		   
    tapeworm Show
    • 8
    • 6
    		   
    River
       
    • 4
    		     
    tapeworm Win Flush to the King £7.55
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