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Aggression levels shorthanded

DeucesLiveDeucesLive Member Posts: 839
edited November 2010 in The Poker Clinic
Ok, so one thing I wonder about is just how wide and aggressive you should be when it gets shorter at the table- 4/3/2 handed? How much can you reasonably push before people start getting aggro back, and how wide a range should you be pushing with? Structure was incredibly quick, so aggression has to be the way, and I think this would have worked out better if not for the fact my opponent seemed to keep waking up with pretty powerful holdings- but is the action too much? Is there any way you can bet smaller and fold to a shove, or should I think more about folding marginals?
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
liam86 Small blind   500.00 500.00 9850.00
SPRING29 Big blind   1000.00 1500.00 22120.00
  Your hole cards
  • 6
  • 7
     
stargazzer Fold        
looneybob Fold        
DeucesLive All-in   12757.50 14257.50 0.00
liam86 Fold        
SPRING29 Call   11757.50 26015.00 10362.50
SPRING29 Show
  • Q
  • A
     
DeucesLive Show
  • 6
  • 7
     
Flop
   
  • 5
  • 8
  • 10
     
Turn
   
  • 9
     
River
   
  • K
     
DeucesLive Win Straight to the 10 26015.00   26015.00
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
SPRING29 Small blind   600.00 600.00 15725.00
stargazzer Big blind   1200.00 1800.00 12622.50
  Your hole cards
  • A
  • 2
     
looneybob Fold        
DeucesLive All-in   24215.00 26015.00 0.00
liam86 Fold        
SPRING29 Fold        
stargazzer Fold        
DeucesLive Muck        
DeucesLive Win   3000.00   3000.00
DeucesLive Return   23015.00 0.00 26015.00
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
looneybob Small blind   800.00 800.00 7787.50
DeucesLive Big blind   1600.00 2400.00 24415.00
  Your hole cards
  • 4
  • 8
     
liam86 Fold        
SPRING29 Fold        
stargazzer Fold        
looneybob Call   800.00 3200.00 6987.50
DeucesLive All-in   24415.00 27615.00 0.00
looneybob All-in   6987.50 34602.50 0.00
DeucesLive Unmatched bet   17427.50 17175.00 17427.50
looneybob Show
  • Q
  • K
     
DeucesLive Show
  • 4
  • 8
     
Flop
   
  • 6
  • 10
  • 3
     
Turn
   
  • 2
     
River
   
  • 7
     
looneybob Win King high 17175.00   17175.00
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
SPRING29 Small blind
800.00 800.00 23175.00
stargazzer Big blind   1600.00 2400.00 12622.50
  Your hole cards
  • 9
  • 8
     
looneybob Fold        
DeucesLive All-in   16627.50 19027.50 0.00
SPRING29 Call   15827.50 34855.00 7347.50
stargazzer Fold        
SPRING29 Show
  • J
  • A
     
DeucesLive Show
  • 9
  • 8
     
Flop
   
  • K
  • 4
  • 6
     
Turn
   
  • K
     
River
   
  • 2
     
SPRING29 Win Pair of Kings 34855.00   42202.50

Comments

  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited November 2010
    I like them all except the 84o one.


    aggression ftw.
  • DeucesLiveDeucesLive Member Posts: 839
    edited November 2010
    yea I realised as I made the 84 move that I screwed up, he was way too short to do anything but call, stupid move :( but I'd watched him limp fold to others once or twice so I was shocked when he took a while to call and finally turned over KQ lol, makes me believe with an inferior folding he actually might have folded there!
  • Loki-RogyLoki-Rogy Member Posts: 213
    edited November 2010
    Hand 1 - Good shove, just enough chips to make it a tough call.

    Hand 2 - seems a bit steep (20BB!), maybe raise/fold, depends how much people have back who are acting after you. If they're short enough to commit you if they 3bet, then I would just ship on them. Think I want to take it down preflop with A2s

    Hand 3 - got to check this one behind preflop. They're short, so they're either going to panic call, or have a monster and are slowplaying it. Can easily assess the situation after the flop then.

    Hand 4 - looking at stacks, there seems to be 24K, 15K, 19K, 23K. Having shown down 84o and 67o in recent hands, I might be tempted to tighten up just a little bit. There's about 80K total chips and 2400 in the middle pre-flop. It's pretty much a crapshoot now. People are going to be calling pretty light, so I would probably not play low connectors at this point.
  • KAM99KAM99 Member Posts: 773
    edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: Aggression levels shorthanded:
    yea I realised as I made the 84 move that I screwed up, he was way too short to do anything but call, stupid move :( but I'd watched him limp fold to others once or twice so I was shocked when he took a while to call and finally turned over KQ lol, makes me believe with an inferior folding he actually might have folded there!
    Posted by DeucesLive
    I'm shocked that with so short a stack he hadn't shoved already.
  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited November 2010
    wow loosey goosey deuces, i like the pressure your putting on each

    1)Personally i would fold, although only getting paid by good hand think with your hand i'd want at least q8+in this spot with blinds
    2) Dont like the shove, 3x raise would have been enough you got the chips so no need to go all in everyhand
    3) terrible(sorry) but limper calls probably expecting you to shove on previous experiance you wake up with 84 and go all in, would fold straight away, mix it up a bit
    4) Again personally i would fold as you want to wait for at least a picture card to push these marginal spots

    obviously all of the above is my opinion so by all means not the correct way just how i would play
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