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River top end straight completes flush draw, no interest shown till this point facing re-raise overb

The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
edited November 2010 in The Poker Clinic
Ok so my opponent here is ultra loose, chances are they have a form of a straight themselves, although any two clubs are also very much in their range - opinions.
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
The_Don90 Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £7.49
kieronm Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £3.21
  Your hole cards
  • 10
  • J
     
 Call  £0.04 £0.10 £1.18
thebrick Fold     
newlad Call  £0.04 £0.14 £1.94
BLITZKRIEG Call  £0.04 £0.18 £0.66
The_Don90 Call  £0.02 £0.20 £7.47
kieronm Check     
Flop
   
  • 5
  • 7
  • 2
     
The_Don90 Check     
kieronm Check     
 Check     
newlad Check     
BLITZKRIEG Check     
Turn
   
  • 9
     
The_Don90 Check     
kieronm Check     
 Check     
newlad Check     
BLITZKRIEG Check     
River
   
  • 8
     
The_Don90 Bet  £0.15 £0.35 £7.32
kieronm Call  £0.15 £0.50 £3.06
 Raise  £0.64 £1.14 £0.54

Comments

  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited November 2010
    I'd probably just call here, likely beaten but also likely they have straight.

    Doubt your ever winning here but surely splitpot alone 1 in 2 times will be worth the call when cheap enough and you have a good stack
  • DeucesLiveDeucesLive Member Posts: 839
    edited November 2010
    well, I bet you at least one has the middle of the straight- definitely gotta call here for my money, too many hands that you're crushing to fold. But I wouldn't be remotely surprised if he turns over the flush, you're definitely getting the odds here though. Guy behind is never reraising there I don't think so it's the last money you're putting in.
  • shelskishelski Member Posts: 467
    edited November 2010
    In Response to River top end straight completes flush draw, no interest shown till this point facing re-raise overbet:

    Interesting. It's the other cat here that bothers me and what they are going to do. So, i fold. You beat sets and lo end but split hi end minus rake. For the sake of that raise and what its worth with another to act with potentially anything in this draw fest i'd give it up and give credit for the flush but i'm maybe wrong.
    What happened btw. I don't want to sound cheeky but can you tell me after a few others have posted cos i'd like to see some other opinions. thx :)
  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited November 2010
    its not an overbet. i call
  • shelskishelski Member Posts: 467
    edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: River top end straight completes flush draw, no interest shown till this point facing re-raise overbet:
    its not an overbet. i call
    Posted by LOL_RAISE
    4 x not over or vb ?
  • KAM99KAM99 Member Posts: 773
    edited November 2010
    Cus of the stakes I think I flat here. Could very easy be people with 2 pair or the lower part of the straight. Yes, you could well be beaten by the flush, but with 2:1 odds and not a huge loss from your stack I see no issue with the call. If there is more action from those behind, well then you might have to bin it, but as is I call.
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited November 2010
    I flatted as many of you above said, although i felt shed stack off here with 2 pair/set or lower straight i also knew two clubs where in range. Typical any two card player, took a fair amount off them in the last couple of days. Anyways after flatting they showed the lower end of the striaght so i was good and the other opponent folded.

    Just wasnt sure if agaisnt a decent opponent flatting was correct but you guys all seem to agree.
  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: River top end straight completes flush draw, no interest shown till this point facing re-raise overbet:
    In Response to Re: River top end straight completes flush draw, no interest shown till this point facing re-raise overbet : 4 x not over or vb ?
    Posted by shelski

    pot is 20p on the river   don bets 15p 1 caller so total pot is 50.
    if villain wanted to raise the size of the pot he would call 15, then raise the size of the pot including his call,  15 + 65 = 80p.

    so any bet over 80p is an overbet
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: River top end straight completes flush draw, no interest shown till this point facing re-raise overbet:
    In Response to Re: River top end straight completes flush draw, no interest shown till this point facing re-raise overbet : pot is 20p on the river   don bets 15p 1 caller so total pot is 50. if villain wanted to raise the size of the pot he would call 15, then raise the size of the pot including his call,  15 + 65 = 80p. so any bet over 80p is an overbet
    Posted by LOL_RAISE
    my maths has gone to shame. :(

    Maths lessons anyone?
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