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This is from the ask tikaythread, you opinions please :)

acebarry10acebarry10 Member Posts: 7,556
edited November 2010 in The Poker Clinic
tooned

then the opinion on this one?

Hand History #304991655 (19:12 05/11/2010)

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
STACKS45 Small blind  £0.50 £0.50 £219.06
rungdmuch Big blind  £1.00 £1.50 £102.70
DeadlyDave Sit out     
  Your hole cards
  • 2
  • 7
     
Tooned Raise  £3.00 £4.50 £86.73
dazpritc08 Call  £3.00 £7.50 £188.36
pilgrim529 Call  £3.00 £10.50 £33.00
STACKS45 Call  £2.50 £13.00 £216.56
rungdmuch Fold     
Flop
   
  • 2
  • 8
  • 7
     
STACKS45 Check     
Tooned Check     
dazpritc08 Bet  £9.75 £22.75 £178.61
pilgrim529 Fold     
STACKS45 Fold     
Tooned Raise  £22.00 £44.75 £64.73
dazpritc08 Call  £12.25 £57.00 £166.36
Turn
   
  • Q
     
Tooned Bet  £14.00 £71.00 £50.73
dazpritc08 Call  £14.00 £85.00 £152.36
River
   
  • 7
     
Tooned Check     
dazpritc08 All-in  £152.36 £237.36 £0.00
Tooned All-in  £50.73 £288.09 £0.00
dazpritc08 Unmatched bet  £101.63 £186.46 £101.63
Tooned Show
  • 2
  • 7
   
dazpritc08 Show
  • 10
  • 9
   
Tooned Win Full House, 7s and 2s £184.66  £184.66

Comments

  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited November 2010
    pre is bad ldo, i think checking the flop is also bad as our hand is so vulnerable if the board gets checked through its disastorous for us. miss lots of value from draws. shove turn
  • BelovedLtdBelovedLtd Member Posts: 188
    edited November 2010
    I think Lol Raise has pretty much covered it

    Summary:  Bad cards played badly but saved with lots of luck
  • jojo2010jojo2010 Member Posts: 27
    edited November 2010
    can i add mine to this please playing in a deepstack past the first break close to the money then this happens really baffles me what can you do  ? lol
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    snakehips2 Small blind  75.00 75.00 13350.00
    jojo2010 Big blind  150.00 225.00 8928.75
      Your hole cards
    • Q
    • Q
         
    music1 Fold     
    EGGHEAD82 Call  150.00 375.00 20568.75
    snakehips2 Call  75.00 450.00 13275.00
    jojo2010 Raise  300.00 750.00 8628.75
    EGGHEAD82 Call  300.00 1050.00 20268.75
    snakehips2 Fold     
    Flop
       
    • 7
    • 6
    • 2
         
    jojo2010 Check     
    EGGHEAD82 Bet  787.50 1837.50 19481.25
    jojo2010 Raise  3412.50 5250.00 5216.25
    EGGHEAD82 All-in  19481.25 24731.25 0.00
    jojo2010 All-in  5216.25 29947.50 0.00
    EGGHEAD82 Unmatched bet  11640.00 18307.50 11640.00
    jojo2010 Show
    • Q
    • Q
       
    EGGHEAD82 Show
    • 6
    • A
       
    Turn
       
    • 5
         
    River
       
    • K
         
    EGGHEAD82 Win Flush to the King 18307.50
  • KAM99KAM99 Member Posts: 773
    edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: This is from the ask tikaythread, you opinions please :):
    can i add mine to this please playing in a deepstack past the first break close to the money then this happens really baffles me what can you do  ? lol Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance snakehips2 Small blind   75.00 75.00 13350.00 jojo2010 Big blind   150.00 225.00 8928.75   Your hole cards Q Q       music1 Fold         EGGHEAD82 Call   150.00 375.00 20568.75 snakehips2 Call   75.00 450.00 13275.00 jojo2010 Raise   300.00 750.00 8628.75 EGGHEAD82 Call   300.00 1050.00 20268.75 snakehips2 Fold         Flop     7 6 2       jojo2010 Check         EGGHEAD82 Bet   787.50 1837.50 19481.25 jojo2010 Raise   3412.50 5250.00 5216.25 EGGHEAD82 All-in   19481.25 24731.25 0.00 jojo2010 All-in   5216.25 29947.50 0.00 EGGHEAD82 Unmatched bet   11640.00 18307.50 11640.00 jojo2010 Show Q Q       EGGHEAD82 Show 6 A       Turn     5       River     K       EGGHEAD82 Win Flush to the King 18307.50
    Posted by jojo2010
    I assume you decided to play the QQ in a trappy way? As played I don't see how you don't stack off here, as after your min raise an then deciding to let him bet first with a mind to doing the C/R you are all done and pot commited. Thats the risks with playing a hand to trap people, sometimes it backfires. Could you, and should you have raised more preflop, and made a Cbet on the flop? In most cases yeah, but if you decide to spring a trap like this its very diffficult to spot a set and by time you got the answer to how much trouble you were in you werre pot committed.
  • BelovedLtdBelovedLtd Member Posts: 188
    edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: This is from the ask tikaythread, you opinions please :):
    In Response to Re: This is from the ask tikaythread, you opinions please :) : I assume you decided to play the QQ in a trappy way? As played I don't see how you don't stack off here, as after your min raise an then deciding to let him bet first with a mind to doing the C/R you are all done and pot commited. Thats the risks with playing a hand to trap people, sometimes it backfires. Could you, and should you have raised more preflop, and made a Cbet on the flop? In most cases yeah, but if you decide to spring a trap like this its very diffficult to spot a set and by time you got the answer to how much trouble you were in you werre pot committed.
    Posted by KAM99
    What are you talking about?
    What set?

    As for the hand
    I agree a standard raise pre rather than a min raise would be good,
    If you've previously seen this player is a bit of an overagressive donk and you can rely on him definitely betting then the check raise was a good move. If you can't rely on him donking all his chips off then you should lead out.

    As for the rest of the hand, he  probably would say something like that he put you on AJ and thought he was ahead on the flop - but basically he was an idiot and got lucky; I wouldn't give it too much thought other than making sure you remembered to make a note of it for future reference.
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