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on terrible form at mo what else can i do

chefboy79chefboy79 Member Posts: 668
edited November 2010 in The Poker Clinic
i thought i had done enough pre flop knew he had hit the j but should i have been able to fold in the end?
VGOOCH Small blind  £0.25 £0.25 £23.75
60nine60 Big blind  £0.50 £0.75 £51.58
  Your hole cards
  • Q
  • Q
     
cauncey Call  £0.50 £1.25 £27.30
chefboy79 Raise  £2.50 £3.75 £19.83
davplay Fold     
VGOOCH Fold     
60nine60 Fold     
cauncey Call  £2.00 £5.75 £25.30
Flop
   
  • 7
  • J
  • 2
     
cauncey Check     
chefboy79 Bet  £4.31 £10.06 £15.52
cauncey Raise  £9.00 £19.06 £16.30
chefboy79 All-in  £15.52 £34.58 £0.00
cauncey Call  £10.83 £45.41 £5.47
cauncey Show
  • 2
  • J
   
chefboy79 Show
  • Q
  • Q
   
Turn
   
  • A
     
River
   
  • 8
     
cauncey Win Two Pairs, Jacks and 2s £43.61

Comments

  • chefboy79chefboy79 Member Posts: 668
    edited November 2010
    same fella just hitting every hand possible he called a 4 time big blind call with 4 8 and hit a straight but i made a move here again lost but should i just be folding hand like these all day long?
    ps i didnt think he had hit the board hence my move
    LUFC007 Small blind  £0.25 £0.25 £40.15
    60nine60 Big blind  £0.50 £0.75 £50.74
      Your hole cards
    • 9
    • A
         
    cauncey Call  £0.50 £1.25 £18.75
    Paffalot Fold     
    chefboy79 Raise  £2.50 £3.75 £24.10
    LUFC007 Fold     
    60nine60 Fold     
    cauncey Call  £2.00 £5.75 £16.75
    Flop
       
    • 8
    • J
    • 8
         
    cauncey Check     
    chefboy79 Bet  £2.88 £8.63 £21.22
    cauncey Call  £2.88 £11.51 £13.87
    Turn
       
    • Q
         
    cauncey Check     
    chefboy79 Bet  £5.76 £17.27 £15.46
    cauncey Raise  £11.52 £28.79 £2.35
    chefboy79 All-in  £15.46 £44.25 £0.00
    cauncey All-in  £2.35 £46.60 £0.00
    chefboy79 Unmatched bet  £7.35 £39.25 £7.35
    cauncey Show
    • 10
    • 9
       
    chefboy79 Show
    • 9
    • A
       
    River
       
    • 2
         
    cauncey Win Straight to the Queen £37.45
  • chefboy79chefboy79 Member Posts: 668
    edited November 2010
    differnt player but every hand i had if i raised he reraised me pre two hand prior to this villian calls a 4 time big i have 10 10 on a 4 5 9 board i raise 4 quid again he calls turn came j me moves all in i cant call he shows ace 4 so when i thought i was ahead here i was so far behind hence my shove
    2512 Small blind  £0.50 £0.50 £47.09
    leonard06 Big blind  £1.00 £1.50 £33.66
    60nine60 Sit out     
    Sharksbite Big blind  £1.00 £2.50 £99.00
      Your hole cards
    • J
    • 7
         
    Sharksbite Check     
    chefboy79 Raise  £4.00 £6.50 £31.50
    villianRaise  £11.00 £17.50 £90.71
    2512 Fold     
    leonard06 Fold     
    Sharksbite Fold     
    chefboy79 Call  £7.00 £24.50 £24.50
    Flop
       
    • 5
    • J
    • 2
         
    chefboy79 All-in  £24.50 £49.00 £0.00
    villian Call  £24.50 £73.50 £66.21
    chefboy79 Show
    • J
    • 7
       
    villian Show
    • K
    • K
       
    Turn
       
    • 3
         
    River
       
    • 6
         
    villian Win Pair of Kings £71.70
  • christiannchristiann Member Posts: 468
    edited November 2010
    Wow the amount of times i see queens beat by two pair on this site, seriously happened 3 times to me yesterday and Don and yourself have posted threads with exactly the same situation! There cursed i tell ya!
  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited November 2010

    The last hand is horrific from your point of view. 

    Why you are taking a stand with jack 7 I don't know?

    Every single cash hand you post, you're sat with less than 50 big blinds. Why?

    Why don't you play a level you can afford to buy in for 100xbb. Come join me at 15/30p. 

    Also don't bluff/c bet without a hand against people who wont fold.
  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited November 2010
    hand 1 is fine.  you just got unlucky.

    hand 2 is fine pre and fine flop.  turn you should check/fold river.  the turn brings all draws and on paird flops if they call then they tend to have something that will not fold.  you are only getting a fold from 22 thru to 77 maybe here by betting turn.  he's never folding a J/8/Q etc.

    hand 3 is pretty terrible.  you shouldn't be raising J7hh when only 30bb deep.  if you are gonna be shortstacking then you should be looking for a very premium holding to get in and double up.  88+ AK/AQ.

    fwiw i think i played you on that tournie a few days ago, and i've played you cash too.  i think you are a far better MTT player than a cash player and should look to stick to that until you've learnt more about cash....if you do wanna be playing cash then stick within your roll.  it is far better to be 3 tabling 10nl full stacked than shortstacking 100nl.
  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited November 2010
    hand 1 unlucky, likely you could stack them if they hit only J so not much more you can do other then buy in full

    Hand 2, dont like c bet on flop as only a J you could be representing i'd rather check, fold to any bet on this one

    hand 3, dont get involved pre flop with j7 even if suited not worth the raise 4 x and thats never going to be profitable long term, whole hand was just baad sorry to say
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