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can i really like my hand after turn action and how much should i value bet?

The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
edited November 2010 in The Poker Clinic
opinions.
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
 Small blind  10.00 10.00 4930.00
 Big blind  20.00 30.00 4980.00
  Your hole cards
  • 5
  • 5
     
 Fold     
 Call  20.00 50.00 5050.00
 Fold     
The_Don90 Call  20.00 70.00 4970.00
 Fold     
 Check     
Flop
   
  • A
  • 6
  • Q
     
 Check     
 Check     
The_Don90 Check     
Turn
   
  • 5
     
 Bet  20.00 90.00 4960.00
 Raise  60.00 150.00 4990.00
The_Don90 Raise  217.50 367.50 4752.50
 Fold     
 Raise  315.00 682.50 4675.00
The_Don90 Raise  787.50 1470.00 3965.00
 Call  630.00 2100.00 4045.00
River
   
  • K
     
 Check   

Comments

  • Mr_MiyagiMr_Miyagi Member Posts: 2,031
    edited November 2010
    raise pre baby and you should love your hand after the turn. They have to have a higher set to beat you and i think you can safely rule out that.

    Depends what your reads of the player are, have they limped with hands like JTh before? because that's the only hand i would think they had and are beating you.
  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited November 2010
    they aren't going to be 4 betting the turn with JT though Miyagi, they can easily have 66 or a hand like AQ.

    i'd flat the 4 bet rather than 5 betting the turn. you shouldn't be 5 betting the turn if you suddenly think you're beat on a blank river.
  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited November 2010
    oh and value bet all in obviously.
  • Mr_MiyagiMr_Miyagi Member Posts: 2,031
    edited November 2010
    I wouldn't thing people limp with pocket pairs when they are first into the pot.

    And so what if they had AQ, fives beats that last time I checked.

    The only hand I would think someone would play like this that now beats you is JTh. because they did absolutly nothing with it until they got a flush draw.

    I aren't saying thats what they have, just that is the only hand I am worried about that I'm losing too (can rule out AA KK QQ 66 imo)
  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited November 2010
    Ok what I mean is that because they put the reraise of a reraise in on the turn I dont think they ever have JT hence i'm not worried about JT.


    I obv know set beats top two but AQ is the only hand we really beat, 66 is quite likely and very often people limp with pocket pairs/suited connectors with deep stacks to try and make a strong hand.
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: can i really like my hand after turn action and how much should i value bet?:
    Ok what I mean is that because they put the reraise of a reraise in on the turn I dont think they ever have JT hence i'm not worried about JT. I obv know set beats top two but AQ is the only hand we really beat, 66 is quite likely and very often people limp with pocket pairs/suited connectors with deep stacks to try and make a strong hand.
    Posted by beaneh
    The exact reason i posted this hand.


    Anyways i value bet 1050 on river he called and showed A2. Looking back im suprised i gor paid anywhere near as much.
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