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How do you go to value town on this flop?

luvBWFCluvBWFC Member Posts: 763
edited November 2010 in The Poker Clinic
I'm sure I have played this badly. Should I have bet the turn? Was my river bet too big? Or am I just screwed because no one else has anything?
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
jay1991 Small blind  10.00 10.00 2465.00
CAPTAIN11 Big blind  20.00 30.00 1940.00
  Your hole cards
  • 2
  • 2
     
TNO Fold     
luvBWFC Call  20.00 50.00 1950.00
angie55 Call  20.00 70.00 1900.00
oucheeee Raise  60.00 130.00 1820.00
jay1991 Fold     
CAPTAIN11 Call  40.00 170.00 1900.00
luvBWFC Call  40.00 210.00 1910.00
angie55 Call  40.00 250.00 1860.00
Flop
   
  • 4
  • 2
  • 2
     
CAPTAIN11 Check     
luvBWFC Check     
angie55 Check     
oucheeee Bet  125.00 375.00 1695.00
CAPTAIN11 Call  125.00 500.00 1775.00
luvBWFC Call  125.00 625.00 1785.00
angie55 Fold     
Turn
   
  • 7
     
CAPTAIN11 Check     
luvBWFC Check     
oucheeee Check     
River
   
  • K
     
CAPTAIN11 Check     
luvBWFC Bet  468.75 1093.75 1316.25
oucheeee Fold     
CAPTAIN11 Fold     
luvBWFC Muck     
luvBWFC Win  625.00  1941.25
luvBWFC Return  468.75 0.00 2410.00
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited November 2010
    i think the biggest problem here its a big card on the river. Not only is it the K but it also completes the flush draw, you really needed to have one opponent river that flush.

    I probably check to the flop raiser on the turn too
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited November 2010
    hard really cos if anyone had anything sure they would still be in the pot

    i dont mind check call flop, then i assume you wanted raise again on turn i would just bet small like 150 to see if anyone has anything, may win pot here but surely to build a pot the turn needs to be bet here even if small so can look weak? as played maybe bet little less 300 but dont think made much of a difference as anyone with K or 7 should call, i doubt flush is ever calling river as looks like u have FH
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  • luvBWFCluvBWFC Member Posts: 763
    edited November 2010

    I was hoping that the big card on the river helped me by improving one of my opponents.

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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: How do you go to value town on this flop?:
    I was hoping that the big card on the river helped me by improving one of my opponents.
    Posted by luvBWFC
    Yeah i agree with that likely to hit opponent thats why dont mind river bet just think others had nothing ul
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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited November 2010
    Flop is fine, but i might try to tickle the turn with 150/200 or something and hope someone chasing overcards or fd calls.
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited November 2010

    Gotta raise flop, the guy could be c betting, but with a caller between the c better and yourself, he has a piece of the flop, a pocket pair (which wud be an overpair) or a draw.

    We need to get value from all 3 of those hands before the board gets scary for them.

    I wud c/r to 325 on the flop,then weak lead the turn for around half the pot, or abit less if you are still 3 handed, hoping for one of them to go nuts and jam their draw.

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  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited November 2010
    Don't mind a flat flop.

    Would prob bet like 300 or so turn tho
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