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Can i fold here?

sikassikas Member Posts: 857
edited December 2010 in The Poker Clinic

late in the £1K GTD, every1 has cashed, just a matter for cash spots...

pryce6Small blind 500.00500.0021160.50Villain 2Big blind 1000.001500.0042858.50 Your hole cardsQQ   HERORaise 2555.004055.0048739.75Villain 1All-in 11903.0015958.000.00pryce6Fold    Villain 2All-in 42858.5058816.500.00      
HERO ....?

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  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited November 2010
    you have 48bb behind?  then yes
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited December 2010
    ugh any reads on the guy whos rejammed?

    With reads I could find a fold but only because it's so soft.

    one queen and another queen is puuurrttty
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: Can i fold here?:
    you have 48bb behind?  then yes
    Posted by scotty77
    How shallow wud u need to be for this to be un-foldable? Where is the line where it goes from snap call, to anything but a snap call against a random-ish opponent in an MTT?
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: Can i fold here?:
    In Response to Re: Can i fold here? : How shallow wud u need to be for this to be un-foldable? Where is the line where it goes from snap call, to anything but a snap call against a random-ish opponent in an MTT?
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH

    33.672bbs roughly though this value changes with every player
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  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited December 2010
    I'd stack off 25bb here.

    I think 48bb is far too much to flip with, at best, in a deep tournie situation.  Tournie life is worth a lot here considering how top heavy payouts are.
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited December 2010
    i probably let go. Against two opponents one has to have hero beat.
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  • sikassikas Member Posts: 857
    edited December 2010
    My read on 'Villain 1' is that he's a bit of a spewtard, he shoving wide here 66+, A9o+, KJs+ he lost half his stack previous hand being a donk...and pretty sure he's tilt shoving

    Villain 2 would know this if he's observant, my image is a bit prob LAG'gy, been raising plenty but then also i have been showing down decent holdings (card rack i know)

    Villain 2 could be re-isolating with 1010+ AJs+ ....

    anyway i folded

    Villain 1 shows 88

    Villain 2 shows KK...hits another K for a set

    i think im ahead say...50% of Villain 2's range, and 80% on Villain 1's range, but as scotty77 said, with 48bb's behind better spots can be found imo

    and for when it would be push fold, im shovin 15-25 bb's here, any less im already all in, any more i PUKE like i did here, n fold


    anyway i go out 7th to bubble the final table...dammit!


    whats ur line if Villain 2 flats the shove, or raises to 25k??
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  • pryce6pryce6 Member Posts: 1,058
    edited December 2010
    When you typed QQ in the chat as you tanked I was just thinking call call call. Mainly because it wasn't my chips but also because Villain2 imo wasn't great, and could be doing this a lot wider than the two hands that beat you or the one that you're flipping with. 

    I think if it was my chips I probably would have tanked, cried a little, shut my eyes and opened them to see the 'I'm Back' button :)

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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited December 2010
    if villian is 2 is who im thinking from last night i would have called tbh

    good fold sir well played aswell

    Edit- sorry different table to me this tourney thought u were on about 6pm one
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