Standard stack of nl10? opinons please also on bet sizing anything...

YOUNG_GUN

right been playing on the table for 30 minutes, xx has not really played many pots and when they have usually play it strongly.

My image if they even look at this stuff is have 3 or 4 x bb rarely but only with good hands and if i dont connect have given up.

The hand pretty good but not great so i 4xbb pre, when i get the re-raise i figure he could have: AA. KK. QQ, JJ, AK

Wow what a pretty flop im happy to go with the hand now top pair, top kicker nut flush draw. I did think as above the xx could be ahead but i have flush outs, possible Q and/or Ace am i right to aim to get it in on the turn.

Reason i have posted this as my bet sizing i think is a bit turnip, first time i've played cash in month any advice would be appreciated.

xx	Small blind		£0.05	£0.05	£29.64
aceaphobic	Big blind		£0.10	£0.15	£12.44
	Your hole cards	Q A
YOUNG_GUN	Raise		£0.40	£0.55	£16.76
1-on-u	Fold
xx	Raise		£1.25	£1.80	£28.39
aceaphobic	Fold
YOUNG_GUN	Call		£0.90	£2.70	£15.86
Flop
		Q 7 8
xx	Bet		£2.03	£4.73	£26.36
YOUNG_GUN	Raise		£5.50	£10.23	£10.36
xx	Call		£3.47	£13.70	£22.89
Turn
		2
xx	Check
YOUNG_GUN	All-in		£10.36	£24.06	£0.00
xx	Call		£10.36	£34.42	£12.53
xx	Show	A A
YOUNG_GUN	Show	Q A
River
		A
xx	Win	Three Aces	£33.02		£45.55

The_Don90

i stack here too mate

SALT1R3

Yeah you have top pair on the Board at the Turn and a huge draw - you did the right play imo.

tapeworm

"The hand pretty good but not great so i 4xbb pre, when i get the re-raise i figure he could have: AA. KK. QQ, JJ, AK"

We are only beating 2/5 hands we put villan on. Therefore the majority of the time the reraise on the flop is only building the pot - we cant be sure a Q or A improves our hand. Surely we have to shove the flop no?? we would have a higher percentage of hitting our outs = more fold equity here, which we have to be happy with in this position given your scope on the villans range?

if not, since the only hand we can be sure are true outs is the flush we have a 19% chance to hit our card on the turn......the reraise is far to much.

Edit: this is more a question rather than advice!!! Im interested in the answers is all.

The_Don90

In Response to Re: Standard stack of nl10? opinons please also on bet sizing anything...:

"The hand pretty good but not great so i 4xbb pre, when i get the re-raise i figure he could have: AA. KK. QQ, JJ, AK" We are only beating 2/5 hands we put villan on. Therefore the majority of the time the reraise on the flop is only building the pot - we cant be sure a Q or A improves our hand. Surely we have to shove the flop no?? we would have a higher percentage of hitting our outs = more fold equity here, which we have to be happy with in this position given your scope on the villans range? if not, since the only hand we can be sure are true outs is the flush we have a 19% chance to hit our card on the turn......the reraise is far to much. Edit: this is more a question rather than advice!!! Im interested in the answers is all.
Posted by tapeworm

against even KK here tapeworm we are favorite. AA and QQ a different story tho, but even then against AA i think we;re racing, i get it all in on the flop 100% of the time.

Talon

 You say in your post about the range of hands that you put your opponent on preflop.Which means that you are in a bad way against 4 of the 5 hands and racing against the other which makes your call preflop quite fishy.

 When the flop comes down you are ahead of 40% of his supposed range and behind to 60% but with a massive draw. Yet with this in mind you play the hand out as if you are ahead and trying to get maximum value for your hand.

  The flop is as good a flop as you could hope for with TPTK and the nutflush draw. I think you should be pot committing yourself or folding at this point and not pot building.With folding not being a good option here.For me the move is the reraise shove on the flop when even if you are behind you have a lot of chances to win on the 2 remaining streets. When the turn comes a complete blank and your opponent has shown interest before you must surely put him on something so the shove there i do not believe to be a good move because at this point he would only fold a draw and of course you could be drawing very thin here with only 1 card to come.

 So for me losing your stack there is fine but you should be losing it all on the flop and not getting it in in installments whilst your odds of winning are diminishing.

LOL_RAISE

call flop.

beaneh

more than fine with raise flop get it in and all manner of other ways to lose our money here.

LOL_RAISE

i dont get why we would raise the flop at all tbh

YOUNG_GUN

reason i have raised flop is to aim to get it in, i think if i shove here i am missing value and villain is foliding out JJ/10 10 etc so i thought would be better to commit me and villain as i was in good shape

Im not really a cash player so let me know if a) anyones not going broke here? b) whether better to raise as i have done on flop or just flat, if flat would you shove any turn? how would you play it drom then

LOL_RAISE

frm what you said in the OP you give the idea that villain is pretty tight and only 3betting very strong hands (with a few possible bluffs)

we have TPTK & nfd in a 3bet pot so we are obviously never folding, we have to accept that if he has a better hand and we miss our draw then we lose our stack, so be it.

if we raise flop he is going to fold out all his bluffs and worse hands (JJ/TT if he cbets these) where as if we flat call we give him the opportunity for him to bluff his stack off, make the 2nd best hand on the turn/river and pay off a bet. thats why i think calling is best. raising is obviously going to be +ev but imo flatting has a higher ev

N1CK

FOLD PRE, as you called play as above lol-raise