My only problem with the thinking is we are assuming that while the villain as described is a very loose/borderline crazy PLO player we are assuming he's suddenly going to play textbook on the river. He's played it awful through the streets when he's behind, there's no reason why he can't play it awful on the river after going ahead.
But I concede you clearly know the player in question very well and have got his betting patterns down pat. If I was you I wouldn't play anyone else if possible (although I don't know who the guy is off hand). You're in the guys head, the line didn't make sense and you made a good call. Well played.
I'm not a massive fan of the 4bet here pre unless I know the villain will 5bet. Did you 4bet him at all and what was his line if you did?
Firstly given that we have an opponent who is calling big bets with bottom pair and a gutshot this goes against your reading of the A clubs being a blocker card because anyone who is calling down this light is very liable to overvalue a flush no matter how weak it is.
Secondly as to my comment about your lead out with AA being effectively a bluff. We have an opponent who is calling with a very bad hand and yet on the trun they have 15 outs to go ahead of you. Admittedly they should never have gone this deep in the hand but at that point they had a good chance of winning whereas you had absolutely no idea of what they were holding.
Whilst playing omaha i have cracked AA and seen AA cracked so many times. And most of the time the player with AA loses a big pot because they are unable to lay it down no matter what. Yes you won this hand and against this player it was probably the right call to make but overall playing AA with no other redraws in this way is the perfect way to win small or lose big.
As a caveat to all my comments about this hand. They are based upon basic solid omaha play and not on reads against any particular opponent.
Couple of comments come to mind here. Firstly given that we have an opponent who is calling big bets with bottom pair and a gutshot this goes against your reading of the A clubs being a blocker card because anyone who is calling down this light is very liable to overvalue a flush no matter how weak it is. Secondly as to my comment about your lead out with AA being effectively a bluff. We have an opponent who is calling with a very bad hand and yet on the trun they have 15 outs to go ahead of you. Admittedly they should never have gone this deep in the hand but at that point they had a good chance of winning whereas you had absolutely no idea of what they were holding. Whilst playing omaha i have cracked AA and seen AA cracked so many times. And most of the time the player with AA loses a big pot because they are unable to lay it down no matter what. Yes you won this hand and against this player it was probably the right call to make but overall playing AA with no other redraws in this way is the perfect way to win small or lose big. As a caveat to all my comments about this hand. They are based upon basic solid omaha play and not on reads against any particular opponent. Posted by Talon
are you familier with playing PLO Hu and these stakes?
Correction to my previous post. The opponent has 19 not 15 outs after the turn.
Yes i do have HU experience. And as far as the stakes are concerned they are of no relevance.As long as you are rolled correctly then you can make correct decisions.Correct decisions are always right irrespective of the stakes.
in answer to you scotty the answer is 3. I only mentioned the outs available to show how weak an overpair to the board is against even a really bad hand.
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My only problem with the thinking is we are assuming that while the villain as described is a very loose/borderline crazy PLO player we are assuming he's suddenly going to play textbook on the river. He's played it awful through the streets when he's behind, there's no reason why he can't play it awful on the river after going ahead.
But I concede you clearly know the player in question very well and have got his betting patterns down pat. If I was you I wouldn't play anyone else if possible (although I don't know who the guy is off hand). You're in the guys head, the line didn't make sense and you made a good call. Well played.
I'm not a massive fan of the 4bet here pre unless I know the villain will 5bet. Did you 4bet him at all and what was his line if you did?
Firstly given that we have an opponent who is calling big bets with bottom pair and a gutshot this goes against your reading of the A clubs being a blocker card because anyone who is calling down this light is very liable to overvalue a flush no matter how weak it is.
Secondly as to my comment about your lead out with AA being effectively a bluff. We have an opponent who is calling with a very bad hand and yet on the trun they have 15 outs to go ahead of you. Admittedly they should never have gone this deep in the hand but at that point they had a good chance of winning whereas you had absolutely no idea of what they were holding.
Whilst playing omaha i have cracked AA and seen AA cracked so many times. And most of the time the player with AA loses a big pot because they are unable to lay it down no matter what. Yes you won this hand and against this player it was probably the right call to make but overall playing AA with no other redraws in this way is the perfect way to win small or lose big.
As a caveat to all my comments about this hand. They are based upon basic solid omaha play and not on reads against any particular opponent.
Yes i do have HU experience. And as far as the stakes are concerned they are of no relevance.As long as you are rolled correctly then you can make correct decisions.Correct decisions are always right irrespective of the stakes.