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8K Sky Sports Deepstack v £5.50 Deepstack

POKERTREVPOKERTREV Member Posts: 9,607
edited December 2010 in The Poker Clinic
I managed to qualify for the 8K Sky Sports D/S via the league stars freeroll, however, I was multitabling in the 8.15 £5.50 deepstack at the same time. I had pocket queens and inst shoved to a raise pre-flop.

Looking back at the hand, was I right to shove pre-flop?
I know if I had re-raised and oppo shoved over the top all of the chips would have went in anyway.
But how about a flat call with QQ, could I have taken it down on the flop?

Ok - as it is the flop is great, but what if it was a A or K high flop? all if and buts, but I can't help thinking I really didn't make the most of this hand.
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
POKERTREV Small blind  30.00 30.00 4180.00
bigmojo Big blind  60.00 90.00 4310.00
  Your hole cards
  • Q
  • Q
     
The_Dram Fold     
fearless82 Raise  180.00 270.00 10247.50
itsonlyje1 Fold     
POKERTREV All-in  4180.00 4450.00 0.00
bigmojo Fold     
fearless82 Call  4030.00 8480.00 6217.50
POKERTREV Show
  • Q
  • Q
   
fearless82 Show
  • A
  • Q
   
Flop
   
  • 10
  • 8
  • 8
     
Turn
   
  • A
     
River
   
  • 7
     
fearless82 Win Two Pairs, Aces and 8s 8480.00  14697.50

Comments

  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited December 2010
    that  shove pre is totally and utterly ridiculous.

    raise a standard size.  he flats.  you go all in flop.  EZ game.
  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited December 2010
    i would have raised as oppoed to shove suprised anyone but aces/kings can call this bet

    got in good just ul, I prefer to 4 bet then shove. as your so deep losing alot of value just shoving in this spot.

    Donk :p


  • POKERTREVPOKERTREV Member Posts: 9,607
    edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: 8K Sky Sports Deepstack v £5.50 Deepstack:
    that  shove pre is totally and utterly ridiculous. raise a standard size.  he flats.  you go all in flop.  EZ game.
    Posted by scotty77
    You're probably right Scotty.

    What if shoves over the top when I raise? Should I be laying them down?
  • POKERTREVPOKERTREV Member Posts: 9,607
    edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: 8K Sky Sports Deepstack v £5.50 Deepstack:
    i would have raised as oppoed to shove suprised anyone but aces/kings can call this bet got in good just ul, I prefer to 4 bet then shove. as your so deep losing alot of value just shoving in this spot. Donk :p
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN
    Can you change that to BIG DONK! please Lol

    Here is another one I think I should have got away from during my multi-tabling mahem, but for some reason I just couldn't lay it down.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    cannykid Small blind  10.00 10.00 5000.00
    MK1979 Big blind  20.00 30.00 4980.00
      Your hole cards
    • K
    • A
         
    rich211 Call  20.00 50.00 4980.00
    POKERTREV Raise  100.00 150.00 4900.00
    lucky77777 Call  100.00 250.00 4900.00
    cla1982 Fold     
    cannykid Fold     
    MK1979 Fold     
    rich211 Call  80.00 330.00 4900.00
    Flop
       
    • K
    • 9
    • 4
         
    rich211 Check     
    POKERTREV Bet  330.00 660.00 4570.00
    lucky77777 Fold     
    rich211 Raise  660.00 1320.00 4240.00
    POKERTREV Call  330.00 1650.00 4240.00
    Turn
       
    • A
         
    rich211 Check     
    POKERTREV Bet  1650.00 3300.00 2590.00
    rich211 Raise  3300.00 6600.00 940.00
    POKERTREV Call  1650.00 8250.00 940.00
    River
       
    • 2
         
    rich211 All-in  940.00 9190.00 0.00
    POKERTREV All-in  940.00 10130.00 0.00
    rich211 Show
    • K
    • 3
       
    POKERTREV Show
    • K
    • A
       
    rich211 Win Flush to the Ace 10130.00  10130.00
     
  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: 8K Sky Sports Deepstack v £5.50 Deepstack:
    In Response to Re: 8K Sky Sports Deepstack v £5.50 Deepstack : You're probably right Scotty. What if shoves over the top when I raise? Should I be laying them down?
    Posted by POKERTREV

    no
  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited December 2010

    No player in the £220 d/stack is ever gonna call you here unless you are crushed.

    You're gonna have to play flops with them, there's no way of avoiding it.

    I'd play tight really early on, and use the time between now and the big one to read up on/practise shove and calling ranges - spots to steal blinds, to re-raise/re-shove light and then hope when it comes to the big one, you win you're flips, get some big hands, and run good if u get it in behind.

    I'd advise that to prepare for the big deepy, u play some speed/velocity tournys.

    There's no way you can learn to play post flop like LjamesL, cowgomoo, offshoot etc in just a couple of weeks, so play to your strengths, minimize their edge, and u might just bink a 2nd place like meeeeeeeeee :)

    vwd for qualifying btw !!! - ull be excited/nervous on the day !!!!

  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited December 2010
    ouch trev that second one stinks a bit, i probably do my stack there but different

    only thing different i would shove there re-raise on the turn, same result just unlucky mate you played it strongly

    cooler hand 2 imo
  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: 8K Sky Sports Deepstack v £5.50 Deepstack:
    In Response to Re: 8K Sky Sports Deepstack v £5.50 Deepstack : You're probably right Scotty. What if shoves over the top when I raise? Should I be laying them down?
    Posted by POKERTREV

    i wouldn't be but can see why some people would.  depends on reads on the player.  against a random then no, if someone i know who's a nit then yes.  he opens for 180 we should be going like 500-600 which IIRC leaves us 60bb behind so we can fold.

    it was a very loose call from the villain with AQ.  usually you only get called there if crushes/flippign with AKs
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