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whats your move here??

BURNShurtzBURNShurtz Member Posts: 1,005
edited December 2010 in The Poker Clinic
really early in tourney, no reads on players. 
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
BURNShurtz Small blind  20.00 20.00 2745.00
jokev10 Big blind  40.00 60.00 3080.00
  Your hole cards
  • Q
  • Q
     
menzies200 Fold     
tilerman Raise  80.00 140.00 3125.00
lee100 Fold     
maria1979 Fold     
BURNShurtz Raise  180.00 320.00 2565.00
jokev10 Call  160.00 480.00 2920.00
tilerman Call  120.00 600.00 3005.00
Flop
   
  • 4
  • 6
  • K
     
BURNShurtz Bet  450.00 1050.00 2115.00
jokev10 Fold     
tilerman Raise  900.00 1950.00 2105.00
BURNShurtz ????
as he raised pre then called my re-raise pre im happy to give him credit for a strongish hand, not sure what his re-raise on the flop meant. does he have a monster or nothing??
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  • SHANXTASHANXTA Member Posts: 1,507
    edited December 2010
    wot would he min re raise with that you are beating?
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  • BURNShurtzBURNShurtz Member Posts: 1,005
    edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: whats your move here??:
    wot would he min re raise with that you are beating?
    Posted by SHANXTA
    so easy fold then??
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: whats your move here??:
    In Response to Re: whats your move here?? : so easy fold then??
    Posted by BURNShurtz
    looking mostly at pre flop then the flop you have to be against AK here. IMO anyways.

    Fold and wait for a better spot.

    Also your 3-bet pre looks very weak.
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  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited December 2010
    3bet bigger pre, cbet smaller on flop
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  • BURNShurtzBURNShurtz Member Posts: 1,005
    edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: whats your move here??:
    3bet bigger pre, cbet smaller on flop
    Posted by LOL_RAISE
    i understand the bigger bet pre but why the smaller bet on flop?? if its an easy answer then i appoligse as im a bit thick.....
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  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: whats your move here??:
    In Response to Re: whats your move here?? : i understand the bigger bet pre but why the smaller bet on flop?? if its an easy answer then i appoligse as im a bit thick.....
    Posted by BURNShurtz
    obviousy its a simple answer for him and a very lazy answer as most of us are guilty of, we all should be reminded that when we give advice or comment on hands we should give reasons,

    how can anyone improve or understand theory or the best play without concrete evidence to back it up......did this turn in to a rant??  
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  • BURNShurtzBURNShurtz Member Posts: 1,005
    edited December 2010
    the ladies aint workin much tonight
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    celticgod Small blind  75.00 75.00 3580.00
    chrissy198 Big blind  150.00 225.00 1935.00
      Your hole cards
    • Q
    • Q
    		     
    grumps259 Fold     
    BURNShurtz Raise  750.00 975.00 3875.00
    cheesey1 Fold     
    bepps Fold     
    celticgod Call  675.00 1650.00 2905.00
    chrissy198 Fold     
    Flop
       
    • K
    • 3
    • 9
    		     
    celticgod Check     
    BURNShurtz Bet  1237.50 2887.50 2637.50
    celticgod All-in  2905.00 5792.50 0.00
    BURNShurtz Fold     
    celticgod Show
    • J
    • K
    		   
    celticgod Win  4125.00  4125.00
    celticgod Return  1667.50
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  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited December 2010
    well tbh one line answers can be great if the person thinks about why someone might offer this as advice

    basically its a super dry board so we dont have to worry about draws. its a 3bet pot and we only have a SPR(stack to pot ratio) of 4 which means its super easy to bet small and get the stacks in by the river (if we want to)

    betting smaller also makes our bluffs cheaper and will get villain to call with a wider range. (vs aggro villains betting smallr can also induce a raise so be careful with those maniacs)
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  • BURNShurtzBURNShurtz Member Posts: 1,005
    edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: whats your move here??:
    well tbh one line answers can be great if the person thinks about why someone might offer this as advice basically its a super dry board so we dont have to worry about draws. its a 3bet pot and we only have a SPR(stack to pot ratio) of 4 which means its super easy to bet small and get the stacks in by the river (if we want to) betting smaller also makes our bluffs cheaper and will get villain to call with a wider range. (vs aggro villains betting smallr can also induce a raise so be careful with those maniacs)
    Posted by LOL_RAISE
    thanks, i didnt have a problem with the 1 line answer just asked if you could explain it more.
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  • BURNShurtzBURNShurtz Member Posts: 1,005
    edited December 2010
    thought it would be easier to take the decision making on the flop away.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    Taser Small blind  15.00 15.00 1815.00
    seymore Big blind  30.00 45.00 2065.00
      Your hole cards
    • Q
    • Q
    		     
    Cheapflop Call  30.00 75.00 1430.00
    Pitney Fold     
    BURNShurtz Raise  150.00 225.00 1560.00
    cmz07 Fold     
    Taser Fold     
    seymore Raise  390.00 615.00 1675.00
    Cheapflop Fold     
    BURNShurtz All-in  1560.00 2175.00 0.00
    seymore Call  1290.00 3465.00 385.00
    seymore Show
    • K
    • K
    		   
    BURNShurtz Show
    • Q
    • Q
    		   
    Flop
       
    • A
    • J
    • 9
    		     
    Turn
       
    • 9
    		     
    River
       
    • A
    		     
    seymore Win Two Pairs, Aces and Kings 3465.00
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