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This is an awful call yeah?

debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
edited December 2010 in The Poker Clinic

Hand History #319401457 (17:41 18/12/2010)

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
debdobs_67 Small blind  200.00 200.00 3750.00
fraggle77 Big blind  400.00 600.00 6410.00
  Your hole cards
  • 8
  • A
     
xceptor22 Fold     
FIELDY1978 Fold     
Magic_8 Fold     
Jiiimbo Fold     
debdobs_67 All-in  3750.00 4350.00 0.00
fraggle77 Call  3550.00 7900.00 2860.00
debdobs_67 Show
  • 8
  • A
   
fraggle77 Show
  • K
  • 2
   
Flop
   
  • 5
  • 5
  • 4
     
Turn
   
  • 4
     
River
   
  • 9
     
fraggle77 Win Flush to the King 7900.00  10760.00
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Comments

  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited December 2010
    yeah.....anything else?
  • spudgun720spudgun720 Member Posts: 88
    edited December 2010

    you get allot of this on sky, but you were only marginally in front preflop & to be honest these are the kind of loons you want calling your raggy ace, you just lost a race..........GL 

  • AnyAcesAnyAces Member Posts: 1
    edited December 2010
    yep.... just awful
  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited December 2010
    Less than 10 BB's you wanted this call.
  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited December 2010

    Again, a suited king here isn't THAT bad a call.

    If the villain had a deeper stack, 14+k ish, It's a pretty easy call against what you should be shoving with.

    As it's pretty much for their tourny too though I would rather wait for a spot to shove myself rather than call off, probably the very next hand if unopened. 

    I suspect that you haven't been pushing as often as you should do though, so the suited King shrinks and should probably be a fold.
  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited December 2010

    Not the worst call ive ever seen but i prob wouldnt make it myself

    Breaking news.... I agree with DOHHHHHH!

  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited December 2010
    Well whenever i watch 865 all the analysts say a call like that is awful as he was only 2k above me in chips
  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: This is an awful call yeah?:
    Less than 10 BB's you wanted this call.
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    Of course i did,but the point IS do you make this call?
  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: This is an awful call yeah?:
    yeah.....anything else?
    Posted by N1CK
    Quality post my friend, very informative,any other twaddle you fancy putting little willy?
  • JohnConnorJohnConnor Member Posts: 1,160
    edited December 2010
    IMO the shove is perfect and the call's not bad either. K high in the blinds figures to be good, if this was the WSOP i'd expect to be looked up here so wp your opponent.
  • ybyb Member Posts: 1,471
    edited December 2010
    You shouldn't include the villain's name in your post.

    Its his chips he can do what he likes, your time would be better spent concentrating on improving your play.
  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: This is an awful call yeah?:
    In Response to Re:any other twaddle you fancy putting little willy?
    Posted by debdobs_67

    LMAO
  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: This is an awful call yeah?:
    You shouldn't include the villain's name in your post. Its his chips he can do what he likes, your time would be better spent concentrating on improving your play.
    Posted by yb
    Improving? improving? WHAT exactly did i do wrong here? raise with any i thought was the rule,BUT call with any is not? please explain your quite ridiculous post you donkey,xxx
  • ybyb Member Posts: 1,471
    edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: This is an awful call yeah?:
    In Response to Re: This is an awful call yeah? : Improving? improving? WHAT exactly did i do wrong here? raise with any i thought was the rule,BUT call with any is not? please explain your quite ridiculous post you donkey,xxx
    Posted by debdobs_67
    You didn't do anything wrong here, which is why its a pointless hand to post. But they'll be plenty of other hands that you didn't play well, which you could have posted instead, and by learning from those mistakes you might become a decent player.

    Surely that would be better use of your time than whinging about losing a hand? ;)
  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: This is an awful call yeah?:
    In Response to Re: This is an awful call yeah? : You didn't do anything wrong here, which is why its a pointless hand to post. But they'll be plenty of other hands that you didn't play well, which you could have posted instead, and by learning from those mistakes you might become a decent player. Surely that would be better use of your time than whinging about losing a hand? ;)
    Posted by yb
    Hence my informative twaddle post
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: This is an awful call yeah?:
    Not the worst call ive ever seen but i prob wouldnt make it myself Breaking news.... I agree with DOHHHHHH!
    Posted by GREGHOGG
    eeek i think im going to have a heart attack

    P.S. i also agree with DOHHHH
  • waynecwaynec Member Posts: 1,023
    edited December 2010
    Depends on what the villian puts you on, have u been busy the last few hands, is he a lose player and how deep his stack is, to me not enough info to say if a bad call are not.
  • GaryQQQGaryQQQ Member Posts: 6,804
    edited December 2010
    No, not awful.

    With only 10BB left your blind vs blind shoving range should be very wide, at least the top 40% of all hands, some players will be shoving almost any two. It's a high variance call but he has pretty good equity against that range. I can't see his stack size, but the more he has behind after making the call the more reasonable it becomes, particularly if this is a bounty hunter tournament because your bounty means the pot is worth more than just the chips, if so his call then moves from being marginal to correct.
  • sharkcjsharkcj Member Posts: 25
    edited December 2010

    i like the shove from you but it depends on past few orbits to why he calls or not, suited king in the blinds where you need to take a race would be good enough for me. (Playing for the win and all)
    I agree with YB you cannot really get any input in improving your game from this thread so may of been better kept to yourself or general chat. Gl at tables

  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited December 2010
    Ty for all of the replys and i DO agree that YB needs to improve his game ;o)
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